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    OK, I've failed to find the thread. This includes all art music (for lack of a better definition), from Troubadours to Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Modern and other contemporary; including non-Occidental classics such as Ottoman, Indian, Gagaku etc.

    No popular music goes in here, for sake of keeping it on topic, and curse be on who that spammeth or trolleth.

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    Händel's Rinaldo, the famous aria made even more famous thanks to the movie Farinelli. Suzie LeBlanc singing.

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    Hawkwind - Space is Deep. Not a popular band by any stretch of the imagination, and being the epitome of psychedelic music and acid rock I would definitely call them art music. Rather than just listen to the "traditional" instruments, try to appreciate the mixture of electronic and acoustic instruments. It's quite beautiful, actually.

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    Beethoven--Moonlight Sonata

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQVeaIHWWck

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    I've recently realized that Stravinsky is a complete genius. The Rite of Spring is so far ahead of it's time and still works with dissonance better then anyone else.
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    A Stockhausen (RIP ) classic: Gesang der Jünglinge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre View Post
    A Stockhausen (RIP ) classic: Gesang der Jünglinge
    Beautiful. Pure sound.



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    Witold Lutoslawski's Chain I conducted by Sinead Hayes

    One of my most favourite composers. Couldn't find his Cello Concerto (online) performed by Rostropovitch. That one has always been in my top lists.
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    The Reaktor Song by Eclipse Sol-Air

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPudOL8SbLg

    a combination of rock and classical music (violin).
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    Strikeout!

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    Contempory, the song from watchman trailer, absolutely amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4blSrZvPhU

    ps, who sings it, heard a song at my cd-shop who must be from the same guys 'your my loveeeeeer'

    edit, oh gah music thread

    Cardigans Marvel Hill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc5QmKymSnw

    Best classical piece ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Ohs3Y6gdI

    And now for something completely different, a blast from my past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukLczN4iOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm-L4amIHNM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-JWKGqFNvk RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW oh the memory's, just not sure they are real.
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    I'm a blessed man to have listened Wajahat Khan live in Istanbul back in 1997. Very few of his performances are on the tube though.

    Bhairavi on Sarod
    Sarod and Sitar duette with his brother Nishat Khan, accompanied by their brothers Shafaatullah Khan on Tabla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Contempory, the song from watchman trailer, absolutely amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4blSrZvPhU

    ps, who sings it, heard a song at my cd-shop who must be from the same guys 'your my loveeeeeer'
    I'm not sure about the your my loveeeer song, but I'm quite sure it must be the Smashing Pumpkins. Haven't followed their recent work, but I'm quite sure it's Billy singing.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATt_StWt64
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    Ah. Yes. Indeed. Henry Cow:

    Teenbeat. Not the original longer version, but, ah well this one is good enough.
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    Gah! How could I forget! Ozric Tentacles.
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    Kâni Karaca (1930 - 2004), the greatest performer of anything to do with sound in Ottoman music and religious cantillation at the second half of the 20th century, is at his best in this video recorded in the US. He improvises a section (Hailing the Prophet) of the Mevlid (Birth of the Prophet) and concludes with a bit of Quran recitation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihuzJdw1GM
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    I really don't get it lol, it isn't in any way meant as an offense but I don't hear the music part

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    Someone that can't be forgotten in this thread is Jacques Brel:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZFr2Fh66zs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_6A0XnMyw

    Another great song in the same style:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXcUTTLud4
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    An amateur recording of a composition of mine in imitation of classical Ottoman music, made six years ago. The photographs are fairly recent though, no older than a year.
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    I object to your distinction between art and popular. While I see your point to a degree, I also don't think that the blessing of a tea sipping, beret wearing metro-sexual is needed for something to be art. Art is, after all, subjective in its nature. Is not the power of art its ability to affect us on an emotional level through physical, visual, and audible stimuli?

    For instance, of all the music you would consider artful, this is without a doubt my favorite.


    That said though, I don't believe it is any more artful than this.

    The second video is IMHO much more artful than the first. Not only is it poetic, but the music and the singing reaches you on a level that even Placido Domingo (my favorite opera singer) is not able to.
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    In principal I wholly agree with you. The only distinction I make is between good, bad and anti-music. But "not essentially popular or industrial music" needed, I felt, means of representation, hence the thread. In the realm of abstract things in general and arts in particular, naming is always troublesome and may serve but as a flexible reference.
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    Good, now where are my movies ;)

    Not my music but interesting though, very heavy on Asian influences

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    @Mouzafphaerre,
    Is that you singing in that video? Nice voice.
    I like the music although I can't make out the language. (I'm guessing it's a dialect of Arabic?)


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    Me & pal singing in Turkish, Ottoman to be precise; the lyrics are by Fuzûlî of Baghdad, XVIth century, with plenty of Arabic and Persian words and phrases indeed.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre View Post
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    An amateur recording of a composition of mine in imitation of classical Ottoman music, made six years ago. The photographs are fairly recent though, no older than a year.
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    No offense man, but I don't see the appeal to this type of music. Why deliberately make the voice shaky (maybe that is not the most accurate way to describe it, but you know what I mean) like that? It kind of ruins it (for me at least).
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    No offence taken indeed!

    It's as close a representation of the traditional style of singing as my talent allows. It's about the style. A "smooth" voice would ruin it for that purpose.
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    Persian classical dastgah Shur performed by Lloyd Miller on oud with Azar Hashemi on santur on National Iranian TV in the 1970s.
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    Josef Christof & Steffen Schleiermacher playing Charles Ives' Three Page Sonata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre View Post
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    No offence taken indeed!

    It's as close a representation of the traditional style of singing as my talent allows. It's about the style. A "smooth" voice would ruin it for that purpose.
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    Yeah, I know that it is traditional, I just don't understand really why it is done like that traditionally. It may just be that I am not used to it, but to me it makes the voice sound weak, like it is faltering, even when it is not.
    It is the same thing with a lot of Romanian folk music I have heard (this may be due to the Ottoman influence, but I am not 100% sure), like this one:

    She is a pretty girl, nice voice, but what she does with it just seems to ruin it IMO. I mean, it must be very hard to do (possibly harder than singing without doing it, of that I am not sure as I know almost nothing about singing :P), so why go through all the effort to deliberately do that with your voice? Do you have any idea why they sung songs in that style?
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