Buffy Mafia 2: A Slayer's Work Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sorry, i misread your post about roleblocker and vigilante.
You have a wealth of information. You have claimed neutral and corruptible. That makes you a huge threat to the town. Albeit not your own making but due to the number of people revealing to you for reasons i cannot fathom.
And I am not comfortable with your posturing from "stop metagaming me" to "lynch me" to "the town will lose if you lynch me"

Please keep in mind the non-neutrals are just as corruptible, stop revealing to me is a good plea for me to be making and good advice for others to be heeding, but it shouldn't stop there. Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.

The town won't lose if you lynch me, but the town will lose if you don't start playing this a little smarter. And honestly, the distinction you're making between neutrals and townies is the exact wrong distinction to be making. Every townie is untrustworthy and all are corruptible, if the pattern from the previous game holds.

You can't keep fixating on my survival win condition, that is less important than the other factors I'm discussing, ones that are extremely pertinent to the town's win regardless of what you end up deciding to do with me. At least play it smarter, so I can feel like I've been of some help.

[Montmorency]

Don't worry, I'm not giving up on you ATPG.

I think the group that Montmorency is putting together is a bad idea. I cannot put it in better words than that. Of course I have never liked the whole townie network.

Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.

What would constitute a large group? 5? 10? What?

Statement: The risk of betrayal is a risk that may be taken for certain crucial networking purposes. Pizza and Csargo, you do not seem to have certain VCs. You wouldn't understand.

I shoulder all responsibility if any private action of mine causes grievous damage to the town. But that is not yet a given. Let's look back with hindsight only once it is merited.

[Montmorency]

Sorry, Pizza, I can not believe that all townies or neutrals blinkering themselves - what you imply should be done - will be a much better course of action.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not responding to your request to change my vote, Monty. You already showed your true colors with regard to how you view neutrals. The lot of us aren't worth one townie.

Until that changes, who you want lynched is not my main concern. And you've already proven to me that you're not someone I should be trying to work with.

Take it up with Csargo. I'll switch if he thinks it's a good idea, otherwise I'm voting to spare my life and kill one of my accusers.

[Montmorency]

I don't even understand at this point - are you RPing, or are you genuinely personally offended? About the friggin neutrals line?

Either way, this is really stupid.

[Montmorency]

LEWWYN DOES NOT WANT TO LYNCH YOU

Don't be a silly mule, man.

[Lewwyn]

To prove:

Unvote; Vote: Abstain

[Montmorency]

Unvote;

Who's got the moral high ground now?

[Lewwyn]

One of the reasons I'm backing off is you claimed Rondel. I did not see it earlier due to the fact you've been spamming the thread with other stuff. Please flail more loudly.

I'm convinced that you are neutral. I'm convinced that Kage and Monty are not scum. I have no wish t lynch any of these people. I wish to lynch someone who is possibly scum. Any actual suggestions Pizza? Instead of simply trying to defend yourself, who do you suspect.

And please stop putting it all on Csargo because thats just plain stupid. You have a brain use it, prove you're an asset to the village. What else are we supposed to do but lynch you if all you do is say woe is me?

[johnhughthom]

Has Kage roleclaimed?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't even understand at this point - are you RPing, or are you genuinely personally offended? About the friggin neutrals line?

Either way, this is really stupid.

It's just a game and I'm not personally offended, but I've lost whatever trust I had in your ability to handle the situation.

I'll think about moving my vote. Right now I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn, etc can go hang themselves for being so bloodthirsty toward me. Being upgraded from dead to stupid isn't much of a promotion. I'll probably feel more cooperative after I've had a break from this thread and had a good night's rest.

You have time to build up a case on someone else:

The Day will end in approximately 57.5 hours, on 12/8/2011 at approximately 10 AM EST

So there's no rush. Good night.

[Montmorency]

I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn,

Kage, at least, you can not accuse here. You made a case against him, not the other way around. Let's be fair.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Kage, at least, you can not accuse here. You made a case against him, not the other way around. Let's be fair.

Oh my....

He voted for me first. I can understand forgetting, but it's in plain, readable text right here for all to see. Please double-check the facts before making such statements.

[Kagemusha]

Tally

Montmorency 2 (Erebus,scottishranger)
Atpg 2 (Kagemusha, BSmith)
Lewwyn 5 (Csargo,edse,thefluffyone93,Arjos,Atgp)
Kagemusha 1 (Captain Blackadder)
thefluffyone93 1 (Seon)
Abstain 3 (DaveShack,Lewwyn,Ishmael)

[atheotes]

Please keep in mind the non-neutrals are just as corruptible, stop revealing to me is a good plea for me to be making and good advice for others to be heeding, but it shouldn't stop there. Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.

The town won't lose if you lynch me, but the town will lose if you don't start playing this a little smarter. And honestly, the distinction you're making between neutrals and townies is the exact wrong distinction to be making. Every townie is untrustworthy and all are corruptible, if the pattern from the previous game holds.

You can't keep fixating on my survival win condition, that is less important than the other factors I'm discussing, ones that are extremely pertinent to the town's win regardless of what you end up deciding to do with me. At least play it smarter, so I can feel like I've been of some help.

Agreed that non-neutrals are just as corruptible. but no other corruptible has as much information as you do.
I do not know about what Montmercy is doing behind the scenes. But big town networks in a game of conversions is a bad idea as far as i am concerned.

if the pattern from previous game holds, you are lying about being attacked

[Askthepizzaguy]

Agreed that non-neutrals are just as corruptible. but no other corruptible has as much information as you do.
I do not know about what Montmercy is doing behind the scenes. But big town networks in a game of conversions is a bad idea as far as i am concerned.

if the pattern from previous game holds, you are lying about being attacked

If you weren't asking the right questions, I'd be voting for you right now.

Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight. atheotes not voting but at least discussing feels okay for now, but needs to commit to a vote soon. DaveShack will be given a pass for now, but not much longer, to be noncommittal. Ishmael could also use a scan or block seeing as he'll be using the "I'm away from my computer" excuse for not voting. Let's make sure that's not the only thing he's not doing.

Scotty's headache excuse doesn't feel genuine. The vote on Monty doesn't feel honest, either. Thinking about it, that's the one I pick as being the oddest of the spotlight avoiding bunch.

[johnhughthom]

Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight.

If I were scum I'd have voted already.

[DaveShack]

I'm seeing a lot of fur flying and honestly don't know which fur is the most appealing. I never have liked making person X a target purely because of past games, and that goes for any X not just ATPG. A few people have voted me in the past because of that 3rd on the bandwagon thing, which usually happens because I'm active a few hours in the morning and a few in the afternoon and it's just the right time to vote, like now. But now that I've said that, if I do place a 3rd vote you'll think I am scum and talked about it to avoid being seen as scum.

I'm a townie, a relatively minor character who only got promoted to the front credits for one episode and promptly got killed in that episode. I'd prefer not to accidentally lynch my lover. That's enough reveal info for now...

It's thin, but I'll take the next to no evidence available and vote: scottishranger. If something else develops and I manage to see it before end of day I'm willing to be convinced to change.

[El Barto]

Lemme catch up with this thread. Askthepizzaguy is, in all probability, the mafia.

[Erebus]

Unvote; Vote: ScottishRanger

Better him then Lewwyn, at this moment, in my opinion.

[johnhughthom]

Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight.

Seriously though, scan away, just don't waste the roleblock on me.

Vote: Monty

Bad vibes.

[edse]

What scottishranger said:

Vote: Montmorency

Everyone is confusing me. But these last few posts of Montys have been scummy and they are the ones that are sticking in my head.

But seriously.... dont understand the fight between ATPG and kage.

The case on him:

No, you're on to something with Scottishranger.

He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.

I like Scottishranger for death.

I agree. People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing.

Vote: Scottishranger

"He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game"
"People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing."

He gave a clear reason for his vote. He stayed neutral in the Kage-ATPG fight that everybody else now has backed away from. So, I can't see a valid reason for your votes. ATPG makes a demand as he ruled the town and Lewwyn just really want to stay alive as he was the one most likely to get lynched before this scottishranger thing.

[scottishranger]

Hi ATPG, why are you flailing around for suspects? I gave a clear reason for my vote, look at monty last few posts and you can see that while they have many words, they say little.


If you want to vote someone who just says there head hurts, why not vote for riedquat?

Jebuz my head!

Ok, ok ok... unvote; vote: scottishranger

No?

But no i stick with my vote for monty.

He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.

Youv played mafia with me before. I am never in the spotlight. I always play uncontroversial until I have something to say.

[scottishranger]

Hmm sorry for double post, but just saw Monty's last post and it is interesting that he knows something about the converting process. Care to explain more for us unenlightened?