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Who's got the moral high ground now?
Who's got the moral high ground now?
One of the reasons I'm backing off is you claimed Rondel. I did not see it earlier due to the fact you've been spamming the thread with other stuff. Please flail more loudly.
I'm convinced that you are neutral. I'm convinced that Kage and Monty are not scum. I have no wish t lynch any of these people. I wish to lynch someone who is possibly scum. Any actual suggestions Pizza? Instead of simply trying to defend yourself, who do you suspect.
And please stop putting it all on Csargo because thats just plain stupid. You have a brain use it, prove you're an asset to the village. What else are we supposed to do but lynch you if all you do is say woe is me?
I'm convinced that you are neutral. I'm convinced that Kage and Monty are not scum. I have no wish t lynch any of these people. I wish to lynch someone who is possibly scum. Any actual suggestions Pizza? Instead of simply trying to defend yourself, who do you suspect.
And please stop putting it all on Csargo because thats just plain stupid. You have a brain use it, prove you're an asset to the village. What else are we supposed to do but lynch you if all you do is say woe is me?
Has Kage roleclaimed?
No i have not. But i can if you guys wish. We need to get organised and fast.
Just letting you guys know that I'll be without internet access for 4-5 days. Hopefully that will only be one full day phase that I'll miss. Try not to lynch me while I'm out 
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Also, seeing as I have no clue who is scum now and because new evidence probably will have come to light by the end of this day phase that I won't see, I'll unvote, vote:abstain.
.Also, seeing as I have no clue who is scum now and because new evidence probably will have come to light by the end of this day phase that I won't see, I'll unvote, vote:abstain.
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
I don't even understand at this point - are you RPing, or are you genuinely personally offended? About the friggin neutrals line?
Either way, this is really stupid.
It's just a game and I'm not personally offended, but I've lost whatever trust I had in your ability to handle the situation.I don't even understand at this point - are you RPing, or are you genuinely personally offended? About the friggin neutrals line?
Either way, this is really stupid.
I'll think about moving my vote. Right now I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn, etc can go hang themselves for being so bloodthirsty toward me. Being upgraded from dead to stupid isn't much of a promotion. I'll probably feel more cooperative after I've had a break from this thread and had a good night's rest.
You have time to build up a case on someone else:
Originally Posted by :
The Day will end in approximately 57.5 hours, on 12/8/2011 at approximately 10 AM EST
So there's no rush. Good night.The Day will end in approximately 57.5 hours, on 12/8/2011 at approximately 10 AM EST
Originally Posted by :
I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn,
Kage, at least, you can not accuse here. You made a case against him, not the other way around. Let's be fair.I'm feeling like the whole lot of Kage, Monty, Lewwyn,
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Kage, at least, you can not accuse here. You made a case against him, not the other way around. Let's be fair.
Oh my.... Kage, at least, you can not accuse here. You made a case against him, not the other way around. Let's be fair.
He voted for me first. I can understand forgetting, but it's in plain, readable text right here for all to see. Please double-check the facts before making such statements.
Tally
Montmorency 2 (Erebus,scottishranger)
Atpg 2 (Kagemusha, BSmith)
Lewwyn 5 (Csargo,edse,thefluffyone93,Arjos,Atgp)
Kagemusha 1 (Captain Blackadder)
thefluffyone93 1 (Seon)
Abstain 3 (DaveShack,Lewwyn,Ishmael)
Montmorency 2 (Erebus,scottishranger)
Atpg 2 (Kagemusha, BSmith)
Lewwyn 5 (Csargo,edse,thefluffyone93,Arjos,Atgp)
Kagemusha 1 (Captain Blackadder)
thefluffyone93 1 (Seon)
Abstain 3 (DaveShack,Lewwyn,Ishmael)
Originally Posted by :
Oh my....
He voted for me first. I can understand forgetting, but it's in plain, readable text right here for all to see. Please double-check the facts before making such statements.
Fair enough - after you self-voted.Oh my....
He voted for me first. I can understand forgetting, but it's in plain, readable text right here for all to see. Please double-check the facts before making such statements.
But fine, let's have a "reset" in our relations. Think it all over, eh?
I vote we kill someone who has posted but not voted yet.
That is someone who is enjoying our division and hoping it destroys us. You name a few of those, I'll vote for one.
That is someone who is enjoying our division and hoping it destroys us. You name a few of those, I'll vote for one.
Daveshack, Seon, Scottishranger. Dave claims to want more info, Seon voted for fluffy(looks jokey), scottish claims the arguments make his head hurt.
Only JHT and atheotes.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Please keep in mind the non-neutrals are just as corruptible, stop revealing to me is a good plea for me to be making and good advice for others to be heeding, but it shouldn't stop there. Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.
The town won't lose if you lynch me, but the town will lose if you don't start playing this a little smarter. And honestly, the distinction you're making between neutrals and townies is the exact wrong distinction to be making. Every townie is untrustworthy and all are corruptible, if the pattern from the previous game holds.
You can't keep fixating on my survival win condition, that is less important than the other factors I'm discussing, ones that are extremely pertinent to the town's win regardless of what you end up deciding to do with me. At least play it smarter, so I can feel like I've been of some help.
Agreed that non-neutrals are just as corruptible. but no other corruptible has as much information as you do.Please keep in mind the non-neutrals are just as corruptible, stop revealing to me is a good plea for me to be making and good advice for others to be heeding, but it shouldn't stop there. Montmorency for example is just as corruptible if he's a townie, and even more dangerous because he's not trying to stop folks from networking, he wants to make the big one.
The town won't lose if you lynch me, but the town will lose if you don't start playing this a little smarter. And honestly, the distinction you're making between neutrals and townies is the exact wrong distinction to be making. Every townie is untrustworthy and all are corruptible, if the pattern from the previous game holds.
You can't keep fixating on my survival win condition, that is less important than the other factors I'm discussing, ones that are extremely pertinent to the town's win regardless of what you end up deciding to do with me. At least play it smarter, so I can feel like I've been of some help.
I do not know about what Montmercy is doing behind the scenes. But big town networks in a game of conversions is a bad idea as far as i am concerned.
if the pattern from previous game holds, you are lying about being attacked
No, you're on to something with Scottishranger.
He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.
I like Scottishranger for death.
He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.
I like Scottishranger for death.
I agree. People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing.
Vote: Scottishranger
Vote: Scottishranger
Well, if that's what it takes...
Vote: scottishranger
Will anyone follow? Particularly you, Pizza?
Vote: scottishranger
Will anyone follow? Particularly you, Pizza?
Originally Posted by atheotes:
Agreed that non-neutrals are just as corruptible. but no other corruptible has as much information as you do.
I do not know about what Montmercy is doing behind the scenes. But big town networks in a game of conversions is a bad idea as far as i am concerned.
if the pattern from previous game holds, you are lying about being attacked
If you weren't asking the right questions, I'd be voting for you right now.Agreed that non-neutrals are just as corruptible. but no other corruptible has as much information as you do.
I do not know about what Montmercy is doing behind the scenes. But big town networks in a game of conversions is a bad idea as far as i am concerned.
if the pattern from previous game holds, you are lying about being attacked
Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight. atheotes not voting but at least discussing feels okay for now, but needs to commit to a vote soon. DaveShack will be given a pass for now, but not much longer, to be noncommittal. Ishmael could also use a scan or block seeing as he'll be using the "I'm away from my computer" excuse for not voting. Let's make sure that's not the only thing he's not doing.
Scotty's headache excuse doesn't feel genuine. The vote on Monty doesn't feel honest, either. Thinking about it, that's the one I pick as being the oddest of the spotlight avoiding bunch.
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Will anyone follow? Particularly you, Pizza?
I might. I want to see what people say first. Like I said, I need some sleep to clear my head. I'd also like to see Scotty respond to the charge before dogpiling him.Will anyone follow? Particularly you, Pizza?
I also want to hear what the other Lewwyn voters have to say about the switch.
But I think it's a strong chance I'll move my vote.
I do think the interactions we had this round were more revealing than a typical Day Two, as stressful as they might have been. So that's a positive note. Better information to base cases off of means more intelligent voting.
Hmm..i dont get the Lewwyn-Montmorency-ATPG discussion. Vote changes seemingly for out-of-game reasons.
There is plenty of time to vote. No reason to vote when i am getting answers from my biggest suspect. I am still trying to understand the reasons behind the three of you agreeing to co-operate after seemingly going hard at each other.
There is plenty of time to vote. No reason to vote when i am getting answers from my biggest suspect. I am still trying to understand the reasons behind the three of you agreeing to co-operate after seemingly going hard at each other.
Jebuz my head!
Ok, ok ok... unvote; vote: scottishranger
No?
Ok, ok ok... unvote; vote: scottishranger
No?
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight.
Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight.
If I were scum I'd have voted already.
I'm seeing a lot of fur flying and honestly don't know which fur is the most appealing. I never have liked making person X a target purely because of past games, and that goes for any X not just ATPG. A few people have voted me in the past because of that 3rd on the bandwagon thing, which usually happens because I'm active a few hours in the morning and a few in the afternoon and it's just the right time to vote, like now. But now that I've said that, if I do place a 3rd vote you'll think I am scum and talked about it to avoid being seen as scum. 
I'm a townie, a relatively minor character who only got promoted to the front credits for one episode and promptly got killed in that episode. I'd prefer not to accidentally lynch my lover. That's enough reveal info for now...
It's thin, but I'll take the next to no evidence available and vote: scottishranger. If something else develops and I manage to see it before end of day I'm willing to be convinced to change.
I'm a townie, a relatively minor character who only got promoted to the front credits for one episode and promptly got killed in that episode. I'd prefer not to accidentally lynch my lover. That's enough reveal info for now...
It's thin, but I'll take the next to no evidence available and vote: scottishranger. If something else develops and I manage to see it before end of day I'm willing to be convinced to change.
Lemme catch up with this thread. Askthepizzaguy is, in all probability, the mafia.
Unvote; Vote: ScottishRanger
Better him then Lewwyn, at this moment, in my opinion.
Better him then Lewwyn, at this moment, in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight.
Seriously though, scan away, just don't waste the roleblock on me.Now, JHT not voting doesn't surprise me and I hope he pays for it with a scan or roleblock tonight.
Vote: Monty
Bad vibes.
What scottishranger said:
"People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing."
He gave a clear reason for his vote. He stayed neutral in the Kage-ATPG fight that everybody else now has backed away from. So, I can't see a valid reason for your votes. ATPG makes a demand as he ruled the town and Lewwyn just really want to stay alive as he was the one most likely to get lynched before this scottishranger thing.
Originally Posted by scottishranger:
Vote: Montmorency
Everyone is confusing me. But these last few posts of Montys have been scummy and they are the ones that are sticking in my head.
But seriously.... dont understand the fight between ATPG and kage.
The case on him:Vote: Montmorency
Everyone is confusing me. But these last few posts of Montys have been scummy and they are the ones that are sticking in my head.
But seriously.... dont understand the fight between ATPG and kage.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
No, you're on to something with Scottishranger.
He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.
I like Scottishranger for death.
No, you're on to something with Scottishranger.
He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game, has posted and voted, and is avoiding the spotlight.
I like Scottishranger for death.
Originally Posted by Lewwyn:
I agree. People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing.
Vote: Scottishranger
"He might have voted but he's maintaining a decidedly neutral and uncontroversial stance in the game"I agree. People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing.
Vote: Scottishranger
"People who haven't posted at all are less suspicious to me then people who have posted but are staying decidedly neutral and or not contributing."
He gave a clear reason for his vote. He stayed neutral in the Kage-ATPG fight that everybody else now has backed away from. So, I can't see a valid reason for your votes. ATPG makes a demand as he ruled the town and Lewwyn just really want to stay alive as he was the one most likely to get lynched before this scottishranger thing.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
I might. I want to see what people say first. Like I said, I need some sleep to clear my head. I'd also like to see Scotty respond to the charge before dogpiling him.
I also want to hear what the other Lewwyn voters have to say about the switch.
But I think it's a strong chance I'll move my vote.
I'm fine with it. Mont obviously knows what Lewwyn's role is and believes his claim. Mont has the information and we do not, so for now I guess I will trust his judgement in the matter. Unvote: Lewwyn, Vote: AbstainI might. I want to see what people say first. Like I said, I need some sleep to clear my head. I'd also like to see Scotty respond to the charge before dogpiling him.
I also want to hear what the other Lewwyn voters have to say about the switch.
But I think it's a strong chance I'll move my vote.
The accusations against Scottishranger are meh to me and I don't think they are particularly great. I have no intention of voting for him.
For the record, I don't believe scottish is Mafia. However,
Originally Posted by :
Mont has the information and we do not
is true. And I'd like to mention that converting me, if at all possible, will gain you no advantage. The process does a number on one's memory, you see.Mont has the information and we do not
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