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    Default Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

    I just had an incredible first 2 years as Arche Seleukia holding the line against Pahlava and just have to share . As you can see in the screenshot, Pahlava has been destroyed by Spring 270:

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    I play on N/N with rules no exterminate/no expel/no selling historic sites

    The first thing I did was defend Asaak successfully. I built a mercenary general the first term and rushed reinforcements. The angle the besieging Pahlava army attacked at allowed me to run my missile troops up a hill to fire down upon the invaders. It took two battles to finish; the first one was a sally by the city garrison which ended as a draw to restore ammunition. Then I attacked using reinforcements for a win.

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    Once Asaak was safe, I advanced on the Pahlava camps. But I got incredibly lucky. When I approached their final town where the Pahlava king and prince were, most of the troops had moved to the northeast! It was still an incredibly difficult battle, though, as the Pahlava royal bodyguards are TOUGH.

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    It took about 10 tries, but I was soooo happy to see the Pahlava faction destroyed message on the 9th turn.
    I actually managed to hold the former Pahlava towns in later turns without losing them to revolts but they've been money drains so far.

    Have you ever had everything just go so completely your way?

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    Default Re: Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

    Wiping out the Koinon Hellenon on turn 3 as Makedonia. They lost all their remaining family members on the seas. Considering that naval battles on VH/M are always with the odds against you, due to autoresolve, that was an absolute lucky shot.

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    Default Re: Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

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    I suppose your phalangites did the main work there? Quite risky to use that composition against such a number of cataphract BGs.


    Have you ever had everything just go so completely your way?
    Well, I once managed to bribe the complete rebel army of Vindelicos when playing as Pahlava. Used them as fort garrison somewhere in northern Iran. I just had to get those Mori Gaesum...




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    Default Re: Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

    How did you get a mercenary general recruited in Asaak?

    Whenever I've played, the Pahlava besiege Asaak immediately after the end of Turn 1, and then the mercenary general doesn't arrive because recruitment and building is frozen in cities under siege.

    I'm playing on BI exe, how about you?

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    @Titus Marcellus Scato

    To get a mercenary general in Asaak, you must recruit immediately on turn 1. You don't have enough money so sell a temple you don't like (I like to replace all temples with ones to Atargatis anyways). Your general will be there when the Pahlava siege starts. And sometimes the Pahlava will delay an extra turn because of the general's presence. Units build when you hit the end turn button so that's before the siege. But maybe this is only true under RomeTW.exe and not BI.exe.

    @athanaric
    The only way to damage the Pahlavi bodyguards is to use the phalangites. The problem is those native phalangites are low quality and their formation will crack very quickly. I had to arrange to take on each bodyguard unit separately and use the archers as a melee meat shield support so the pikemen didn't get flanked (their arrows don't do anything anyways).

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    Default Re: Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

    wow, you must neglect your western front a lot and in the meantime, feel free to have Yellow troopers flooding levant (unless you also take care to fortify Hierosolyma)

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    Default Re: Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    wow, you must neglect your western front a lot and in the meantime, feel free to have Yellow troopers flooding levant (unless you also take care to fortify Hierosolyma)
    Are you kidding? He's already conquered Sidon, Hierosolyma, Side and Tarsus from Ptolies and destroyed Pontos from what I can tell. I think his western front is going fine as well.
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    Default Re: Luckiest Game? Destroy Pahlava as Seleukids in Spring 270BC

    No problems on the Western Front!

    On the first turn I sent the Damaskos garrison to Sidon. It leaves Damaskos undefended but the Ptolomies in Sidon are locked down in siege. Sidon is taken turn 2 using the phalangite advantage of the Seleukids. I send the Antiocheia garrison west towards Tarsos. Tarsos is taken turn 3 by the superior Seleukid force. Meanwhile all the garrison troops but the weakest unit per city from Sardis, Ipsos, and Karkathiokerta plus the troops which just took Tarsos are sent to Mazaka and merged into a large strike force which takes out Pontos. At this point I'm building more phalangite units to support the southward push to overwhelm Judea. Meanwhile, garrison troops from Babylonia are used to take Palmyra. So by turn 9, the west looks like this:

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    After this turn I reinforce an army heading south to try to invade the Ptolemaic homeland.

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    Play kh on vh/vh
    I attacked Pella with 1300 men at summer 270 BC,the garrison was about 3400.
    My attempt was failed due to time limit and both side lost their king.
    The Macedon try to eliminate my remaining force but failed.
    I took Pella with ease the next turn

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