DARKLING [Concluded]

[Arjos]

I don't buy this wagon on Jarema, seems too "lucky" for a visit to scan the mafia and then in the write-up refers to it as a "large figure"...
Since Lazy was visiting Jarema's house, in he dark he simply called out his name...

Ima Vote: BSmith because I don't like lurkers :D

[classical_hero]

Could Jarema have been protected and Lazy was the attacker?

[BSmith]

How am I lurking? The day just started a few hours ago!

Coincidentally I visited Lazy last night, but did not learn anything from the visit.

[LazyMcCrow]

Could Jarema have been protected and Lazy was the attacker?

I suppose that might seem possible if one hadn't been paying attention, but seems a bit unlikely, given that I switched my vote from Montmorency to Jarema on Day 1: calling him out as bandwaggoning scum, not to mention the fact that it says in big letters in the write-up that 'Lazy McCrow Survived' implying that I was the one attacked.

[White_eyes:D]

2. I am a gunsmith. Maybe this is why there is so much weapons in my house. MAYBE even I saved you when I returned home...
3. Anyway, I have no info about anything happening at my house. I have 3 hpothesis about it:
a) I was out and this is why I do not know anything. It just happened, that a beast and two others visited me at night
b) I am a beast, but I do not know about it. Some kind of werewolf who thinks he is normal townie...
c) some ability, similar to bus driver, switched some results

EDIT: there is also a notion, that even mere presence of darkling can drive people mad. Maybe it has something to do with it?

I think either Lazy McCrow was possessed or Jarema was when you went to visit Chaotix. It is clear that the Mafia need to kill by framing people for the lynch, unless they just skipped a kill or something. I am thinking they get to either kill or frame but not both and I am not sure what happens if they are "visited" during the night.

I am going to Vote:Chaotix because I think Jarema was framed.....I hope I am not proven wrong though.

[Diamondeye]

It would be too obvious if it was Jarema... I think what happened is this:
Jarema left his house to go spy on Chaotix.
Lazy McCrow was trying to go spy on Jarema (going to his house).
The attacker was trying to attack Jarema but did not find him home. When Lazy McCrow turned up, he was attacked instead. Jarema then came home and saved McCrow.

This means that Jarema probably isn't on team with the beast in the writeup, and neither is McCrow. I don't think we can say anything about Chaotix.

I am going to Vote:Classical Hero again today since he was the last person to join the Jarema wagon and his post is pretty scummy with scum on top.

[Arjos]

I mostly agree with Diamondeye, but I don't know who was the guy with the gun...
Could be Jarema (he does have weapons at home, but didn't seem like firearms and a townie strolling around with a gun scares me :P), maybe was another visitor: no idea...
It's tricky what Jarema is saying about his visit to Chaotix:

Description is vague, but it seems to indicate that I was not sure where I went.

How am I lurking?

Just wanted to hear from you :D

Unvote

[LazyMcCrow]

It would be too obvious if it was Jarema... I think what happened is this:
Jarema left his house to go spy on Chaotix.
Lazy McCrow was trying to go spy on Jarema (going to his house).
The attacker was trying to attack Jarema but did not find him home. When Lazy McCrow turned up, he was attacked instead. Jarema then came home and saved McCrow.

I think this is entirely possible, except for the fact that I am certain that I was attacked by Jarema. I'm still viewing Jarema as the threat, or; if not Jarema then someone has made it look like it was Jarema that attacked me.
If Jarema had returned and saved me from the beast then he would surely know about it. The only other thing that seems likely is that edse's words of caution concerning the danger of 'visiting' people may indeed hold up. You'd need to be able to install a cast-iron curfew to test that out though.

[Arjos]

I'm going to Vote: Chaotix, with Jarema getting framed...

[Zack]

I am certain that I was attacked by Jarema.

I'm assuming this means he received a night result saying he was attacked by Jarema.

And as it was a snarling, Satanic beast which clearly attacked LazyMcCrow, that means Jarema is a snarling, Satanic beast. Vote: Jarema

[Diamondeye]

I think this is entirely possible, except for the fact that I am certain that I was attacked by Jarema. I'm still viewing Jarema as the threat, or; if not Jarema then someone has made it look like it was Jarema that attacked me.
If Jarema had returned and saved me from the beast then he would surely know about it. The only other thing that seems likely is that edse's words of caution concerning the danger of 'visiting' people may indeed hold up. You'd need to be able to install a cast-iron curfew to test that out though.

How can you be certain? Did you get a results PM that clarifies it beyond any doubt? Because I don't want us to waste a day lynching Jarema only to find out you were lying and then spend another day lynching you and finding out you're not a baddie either. That happens too often.

[edse]

How can you be certain? Did you get a results PM that clarifies it beyond any doubt? Because I don't want us to waste a day lynching Jarema only to find out you were lying and then spend another day lynching you and finding out you're not a baddie either. That happens too often.

So instead we vote for someone who made a scummy post like you did.



6 Jarema: LazyMcCrow, Ishmael, Captain Blackadder, edse, classical hero, Zack
3 Chaotix: Jarema, White_eyes:D, Arjos
1 classical hero: Diamondeye

9 No vote: Visorslash, autolycus, landlubber, Chaotix, Double A, BSmith, Diana Abnoba, DaveShack, atheotes

[Arjos]

I am certain that I was attacked by Jarema. ... someone has made it look like it was Jarema that attacked me.

Tbh, those two sentences in the same post, make your certainty look rather flimsy...

All we have is a large figure attacking you, while you asked for Jarema in the dark...

[LazyMcCrow]

How can you be certain? Did you get a results PM that clarifies it beyond any doubt? Because I don't want us to waste a day lynching Jarema only to find out you were lying and then spend another day lynching you and finding out you're not a baddie either. That happens too often.

The host says you specifically cannot discuss any PM private discussion between the host and yourself. I am knocking down all sorts of invisble walls of fiction just reminding you of this fact.

*readjusts wig and makeup*

EDIT: Just read this back and wanted to make sure that you know it is a tongue in cheek post and in no way was I intending to cause offence.

[Play nice - GH]

[classical_hero]

It would be too obvious if it was Jarema... I think what happened is this:
Jarema left his house to go spy on Chaotix.
Lazy McCrow was trying to go spy on Jarema (going to his house).
The attacker was trying to attack Jarema but did not find him home. When Lazy McCrow turned up, he was attacked instead. Jarema then came home and saved McCrow.

This means that Jarema probably isn't on team with the beast in the writeup, and neither is McCrow. I don't think we can say anything about Chaotix.

I am going to Vote:Classical Hero again today since he was the last person to join the Jarema wagon and his post is pretty scummy with scum on top.

Well I voted and then I had second thoughts since it was far to easy for us to get Jarema, with the write up, so he was mentioned for a reason, but most probably is meant to view him as being innocent also. So for now I will unvote:Jarema and think about my vote later. I am leaning towards Chaotix, but we might get more info. Also I visited Ishmael last night and I learnt nothing from that visit.

[Chaotix]

Sorry... how exactly am I the one who framed Jarema, if Jarema was framed at all?

I did nothing last night, because I was expecting to be visited after what I said in-thread. I got no sort of result PM.

I would tell you all that I konw (of course, I do not think everyone would believe me...). It does not sound very good for me. Maybe after my death town will use it
1. I wasn't in my house. I mean, I went to visit Chaotix. Description is vague, but it seems to indicate that I was not sure where I went. I do not know if you can meet someone in his own house if he went out? (does all night visits happen simultaneously?)
2. I am a gunsmith. Maybe this is why there is so much weapons in my house. MAYBE even I saved you when I returned home...
3. Anyway, I have no info about anything happening at my house. I have 3 hpothesis about it:
a) I was out and this is why I do not know anything. It just happened, that a beast and two others visited me at night
b) I am a beast, but I do not know about it. Some kind of werewolf who thinks he is normal townie...
c) some ability, similar to bus driver, switched some results

EDIT: there is also a notion, that even mere presence of darkling can drive people mad. Maybe it has something to do with it?

I would be believing Jarema right now if he were doing anything but voting for me. First, he claims his night result was "vague," which it shouldn't be because I didn't go anywhere, and I would have been at my house/inn for him to meet.

So already, I know he's either lying or his role is the village idiot.

Second- I believe the claim that his cover role is a gunsmith. Which means he's not some kind of idiot, and he would know how to get to my house. And a gunsmith isn't the one who shoots the guns. He's lying about saving Lazy (or "possibly" saving him) to give himself more credibility.

Then he pulls out the "maybe I am a werewolf but I don't know it".

Basically, what happened last night is that Jarema stuck around at his house to see what would happen if he didn't do anything. Then, it turns out that someone visited him, survived, and now his name is in the write-up and it's implied he's a Darkling. What does he do? Takes the only scapegoat he can find this early in the game and claims he visited me (because I invited visitors) and then that I must have framed him somehow.

And for some reason, a few of you guys believe him?

Vote: Jarema

My choice is clear. If you all think something's fishy I encourage you all to come find out for yourself about the "strange" things that happen when you visit me. I will continue not to visit anyone else.

[Arjos]

I did nothing last night ... I encourage you all to come find out for yourself about the "strange" things that happen when you visit me. I will continue not to visit anyone else.

All sounds like a mafia who can only kill via lynch for the moment...

[Diamondeye]

Unvote, Vote:Jarema.

I'm taking LmcC's word for this but I'm not ashamed of admitting that I don't like that tone. I'd appreciate a warning from the host to discourage that kind of derogative behaviour, because I didn't come back to mafia to be abused by someone overreacting to a perfectly valid inquiry.

[atheotes]

If Jarema saved Lazy, surely he must know about it.

they saw a young woman with blood all over her clothing, which appeared to be nothing more than ordinary sleep wear. She was holding a long knife, with a blank, almost shocked expression on her face.

The sight of this young woman, in the state she was in, caused several of the womenfolk to faint. Some of the men rushed to their aid, while others approached the young woman covered in blood. After they pried the bloody knife out of her hands, they had a doctor inspect the wounds all over her body, which appeared to be bite marks. Shortly thereafter, she was restrained in a bed under guard, until the local magistrate could arrive.

"She's dead."

"How awful. No one could have survived such vicious wounds. Does anyone know what possessed that girl to murder someone in cold blood?"

"Darkling?"

"A terrifying demon capable of making itself look just like an ordinary human being. They prey on the weak and the innocent, tormenting their victims and causing them to suffer unimaginably, before finally ending their lives. Sometimes, the victims go mad just from the presence of these beings."

Theory: The Darkling will have to possess someone to commit murder. it came to possess Jarema but he was not in his house. Lazy came and the darkling tried to possess him (the write up makes it seem like it attacked Lazy, but it could have just tried to possess...it leaves bite marks on the possessed as seen on the girl who was possessed).

Perhaps Lazy was protected and he escaped

Did anyone else visit Chaotix?

[Askthepizzaguy]

OOC- Yeah that tone felt inappropriate.... gotta keep that in check Lazy. Any curse words should be completely ****-ed out or preferably not used at all in such a context. We try to limit such things to "Oh we just lynched the town doctor" as opposed to directing it at someone specifically.

[LazyMcCrow]

Unvote, Vote:Jarema.

I'm taking LmcC's word for this but I'm not ashamed of admitting that I don't like that tone. I'd appreciate a warning from the host to discourage that kind of derogative behaviour, because I didn't come back to mafia to be abused by someone overreacting to a perfectly valid inquiry.

OOC: For the record, I apologise - you'll be glad to know that General Hankerchief was straight on the case. As I said in my edit, I didn't mean any harm, but the last thing I want to do is put anyone off from joining a game I play, so I hope you accept the apology.

[Diamondeye]

OOC: For the record, I apologise - you'll be glad to know that General Hankerchief was straight on the case. As I said in my edit, I didn't mean any harm, but the last thing I want to do is put anyone off from joining a game I play, so I hope you accept the apology.

OOC: I think the swift moderator reply might have to do with me reporting the post. That out of the way, apology accepted and let's actually play this game

[Visor]

Vote: arjos

[Jarema]

As for the matter:
I do not think seriously that I was the one that saved LazyMc. I also do not think there is a real case against Chaotix - I just didnt have better target.
I think that the truth is that I was out, and 3 people visited my house.
But I am worry about not remembering what I was doing at night

EDIT: My new hypothesis: maybe people that visit Chaotix become drunk? It would explain why I do not remember too much from this night

[White_eyes:D]

My choice is clear. If you all think something's fishy I encourage you all to come find out for yourself about the "strange" things that happen when you visit me.

"If you want strange pills in your drink, visit Chaotix."

Your giving me a scummy vibe....can you do something about that? I guess I will see you tonight then.

[Diana Abnoba]

Getting a scummy vibe from Chaotix also, but the issue with Jarema is more pressing for now.

Okay, the possibilities of Jarema being possessed, or possibly the one who saved Lazy (I think less likely), or some werewolf role...I don't think so, seems more likely that he is just a mafia who got caught, and "doesn't remember what happened last night" (yeah-not). I've done some serious partying in my day, but I've never been that drunk Jarema.

Vote: Jarema

[Jarema]

Diana, I understand your point. If I were you, I will vote for myself.
I am only writing everything I know and think, so when you see that I am townie, you can use info I gave you

[edse]

8 Jarema: LazyMcCrow, Ishmael, Captain Blackadder, edse, Zack, Chaotix, Diamondeye, Diana Abnoba
3 Chaotix: Jarema, White_eyes:D, Arjos
1 Arjos: Visorslash

7 No vote: autolycus, landlubber, Double A, BSmith, DaveShack, atheotes, classical hero

Remember that the day ends if someone gets half the votes (probably 10 of 19)

21 and a half hour left I believe.

[classical_hero]

vote:Jarema Since there is not much else to go one.

[Jarema]

Ok
only in order to get it quick (I do not see any reason to take longer) unvote, vote: Jarema