Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
As well as the women's movement, you forgot to add.
No more than basic egalitarianism. Picking up on Syl point about religion, egalitarian Christians as early as 1400 were arguing for women to be allowed to preach, as the logical extension of a "universal" priesthood.

Hmm. This is something we will likely have to agree to disagree on - with proper sex education, he choice to have casual sex is a tradeoff between a good time and informed risks. Also, safe referred to both diseases as well as getting preggers.
So long as you accept there's a trade off, I'm happy to call it "safe", but sex is still a fairly serious undertaking.

That reinforces the idea that the only kind of rape is the jumping out of the bushes variety, when actually the majority of rapes are date rapes. Perfect Rape Victims who can have somebody save them are very, very rare occurrences.
You are correct, but you miss my point. It's all about making chivalry manly, a lot of "date rapes" look decidedly ambiguous, which is why cases tended to fall apart. While the woman in question probably was coerced, the extent to which she had drinks forced down her throat, or was actually spiked, is often unclear. Not only will a chivilrous man slay the evil rapist, not only will he NOT spike her drink, he will also not take advantge of her when she is insensible. It's about creating a mindset, creating taboos, and generating revulsion and the associated sense of shame. Shame is very undervalued.

Oh, I was referring to the feminist's critique, not your comment.
OK

This has definitely strayed into victim blaming.
Seven years now I have seen this pattern, you get a bit jaded when you have a box of rape alarms on your desk to give to 18 year old girls, but only 24 hours later. I am certainly not blaming the victims but the fact that it always happens to first years, in the first term, in basically the same place, tells me the unfortunate girls are in the wrong place at the wrong time, without taking adaquate precautions. It has never happened to a girl who was escorted, as long as I have been here.