I find this thread depressing, like most discussion on gender and the stereotyping that always comes with it. And I didn't even read half the posts due to a lack of time.

A lot of these things are in the eye of the beholder, are shaped by experience, surroundings and what we learned, coming to a common understanding is almost impossible.

I could give you my view but some of you would think I'm an inexperienced idiot so I won't.