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    Default Re: Freedom! Och Aye the noo.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    If the Scots want to go, then that is their call. Good bye and good luck. I'd not fight to keep that dreary dump tied in with England. The threat of a Catholic invasion has decreased.

    I do not understand why the English don't get a referrendum to boot Scotland out of the UK. It's as if we all have to sit there meekly, hoping that they will deign to stay with us.

    As it stands, they have their politicians in Westminster and in their own parliment. When there was only one this was OK, but now this isn't right.

    If they go it alone and thrive, then good on them. If they go it alone and fail at least they can only blame themselves.

    We could have a referendum on US leaving the Union, we couldn't very well have one on kicking the Scots out.

    Anyway, most Scots are neither stupid nor racist bigots like Salmond - they don't want independance, simply less interference from London, and don't we all want that?

    Beyond that basic point - the article is built on a fallacy because the Scottish Pound is seperate from the English one, all that has to happen is for the bank of England to stop redeeming the notes and the currency union ends.
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    Default Re: Freedom! Och Aye the noo.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    We could have a referendum on US leaving the Union, we couldn't very well have one on kicking the Scots out.

    Anyway, most Scots are neither stupid nor racist bigots like Salmond - they don't want independance, simply less interference from London, and don't we all want that?

    Beyond that basic point - the article is built on a fallacy because the Scottish Pound is seperate from the English one, all that has to happen is for the bank of England to stop redeeming the notes and the currency union ends.
    Yes, I agree that my phrasing was deliberately poor - we could opt to leave.

    I agree that all areas would like less interference from Westminster. BUT with the Scots, they along with the Welsh (wno are both overly represented in Westminster) can vote for one thing... and then their local parliments can choose to do something completely different - they vote on laws that England has to abide by, whereas they on many issues can do differently.

    I think that there should be a referrendum - and a simple yes or no. The half way house (devolution max) again appears to be trying to cherry pick all the bits that are good, and avoid all the bits that aren't.

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