SAB'YN CAMPAIGN

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Or it could just be similar to the peoples of North Africa preview. But whatever, I've given up on trying to figure anything out regarding EBII, it just leads to brain hemorrhaging.

[PelicanMan]

Hey Guys,

Haven't been able to play much, a lot going on in the real life. I was able to sit down and play about 12 turns last night and made a bit of progress.

Here is what I have accomplished so far:



As you can see, I have been starting to recruit spies and have been sending them out to Petra and Charax. a few have died already but I now have one in Petra, and I have 4 making their way to Charax.

The Seleucids were besieging the town of Gerrha with a full stack but no general, and they were defeated by a half stack and a rebel general. So they were sent back to their borders in Charax. I besieged the town and took it over with about 1100 men (half Stack) and right after that, AS besieged my port. So now I am at war with AS and Ptole. This sucks. lol It definitely will make for an interesting campaign.

I have the smaller mine @ Tamane, Maryab is still building the 20 turn mine,and I just put on build a mine in Carna. Once those are finished building, I should be able to field 2 nice size armies. I have started to build the first army in the capitol so once that is finished (10 turns or so) both mines will be ready to go. I plan to attack Theron with that army and my second army which is already half built will be attacking Charax. All diplomacy is lost when it comes to those two factions because they do hate me quite a bit now. They won't accept any deal for a ceasefire. So its either I turtle and deal with a crap load of stacks later, or slap those **tches and tell them who their daddy is. Yeah, that's right, Daddy is bringing home the bacon; and nobody is going to stop me.

After invading Theron I will setup shop @ Axum and continue with the plan of a sub faction that will ease its way into the southern regions of Africa. The main army will leave them at peace and I will give them Theron (of coarse role playing) and go for Diospolis-Megale. That will be part of the future Empire of Saba.

Now, I will have some issues along the way, but as of right now, I can only wait for the Mining Complex in Maryab to finish before I build the next military complex that will give me Phalanxes. That will eventually be my Faction Leader's army (Third Army). That should be enough to start doing some serious Damage.

SO, that is what is going on so far.

If you guys have any advice, let me know.

Thanks!!!
THE P-MAN

[athanaric]

You shoulda built the mines in Carna first. They're twice as effective. Also, why Type III govts. in those Arabic cities? They make no sense tech wise (nor recruitment wise. You can get phalangites with a Type i government). Unless you're roleplaying, of course.

Bear in mind that one of Saba's chief weaknesses is law boni (in that they don't get any aside from garrisons and temples). This'll limit your effective income, especially as your empire grows larger. Distance to capital is a b****. Same for nomadic factions, of course. And Koinon Hellenon, astonishingly.

[PelicanMan]

You shoulda built the mines in Carna first. They're twice as effective. Also, why Type III govts. in those Arabic cities? They make no sense tech wise (nor recruitment wise. You can get phalangites with a Type i government). Unless you're roleplaying, of course.

Bear in mind that one of Saba's chief weaknesses is law boni (in that they don't get any aside from garrisons and temples). This'll limit your effective income, especially as your empire grows larger. Distance to capital is a b****. Same for nomadic factions, of course. And Koinon Hellenon, astonishingly.

Why Carna? I really don't know why they would be twice as effective.

Well, the type three Governments are for role playing; after the buildings that are in queue are finished for the Type III governments are finished, I will be upgrading them to Type II.

In regards to law bonuses, what do you mean? Is it tied with the government levels? sorry, I wasn't sure if you were continuing on from your first point.

In the future, I plan to Make Either Petra or Charax my capitol. I would make Charax my future capitol for defensible purposes, but I think I will have it at Petra because of my future expansions into Egypt. That is a few years away though.

Regards,
THE P-MAN

[athanaric]

Why Carna? I really don't know why they would be twice as effective.

Because Carna has two mining sites, meaning you get 1200 mnai/turn from a "simple mine" instead of 600 (like in Sabata or Maryab). And 3000 instead of 1500 from an upgraded mine.

In regards to law bonuses, what do you mean? Is it tied with the government levels?

Tech tree. Sab'yn generally get few law boni, regardless of government type. I think the maximum is +25% or +30%, if you build tier 2 garrisons plus a maximum level tempel of Athtar, that is. By comparison, (even) the Swêboz get +30% for a much lower expense.

[PelicanMan]

Because Carna has two mining sites, meaning you get 1200 mnai/turn from a "simple mine" instead of 600 (like in Sabata or Maryab). And 3000 instead of 1500 from an upgraded mine.


Tech tree. Sab'yn generally get few law boni, regardless of government type. I think the maximum is +25% or +30%, if you build tier 2 garrisons plus a maximum level tempel of Athtar, that is. By comparison, (even) the Swêboz get +30% for a much lower expense.

Ahhh.. I didn't know that they had two mining sites. Thanks for the tip! I will definitely keep that in mind when I do another campaign of theirs on my future new computer. YA!!!! can't wait.

As for the Tech Tree, what I understand from your statement is that if I build level 1 government for the cities around Maryab, I can build the highest level temple for the added law bonuses. Alright, I get it now.
I plan on doing that, but I want to role play otherwise things will just get boring. I do not want to make it difficult on myself, I just want to stay interested in the campaign.

I think My next update will most likely be on the weekend because I am partying tonight for my birthday (which is tomorrow) and also partying Friday cause my family will celebrate it then. After that, probably Sat or Sun I will play and provide an update. Hopefully I get a few good hours of playing.

Also, any other advice is appreciated.

Cheers!
THE P-MAN

[athanaric]

As for the Tech Tree, what I understand from your statement is that if I build level 1 government for the cities around Maryab, I can build the highest level temple for the added law bonuses. Alright, I get it now.

No no, I meant that Saba is generally lacking in buildings that provide law boni (they don't have paved roads, bath houses, or large stone walls). Also, the maximum temple level isn't affected by government type (one of the few buildings that isn't). Other happiness or law increasing buildings are, though.

[PelicanMan]

No no, I meant that Saba is generally lacking in buildings that provide law boni (they don't have paved roads, bath houses, or large stone walls). Also, the maximum temple level isn't affected by government type (one of the few buildings that isn't). Other happiness or law increasing buildings are, though.

Well, that certainly does change things; I guess I will have to make Petra my new capitol since I will be going after Egypt. Otherwise Distance to Capitol will be a killer in terms of unrest. I'll have to leave influential governors just to keep peace in Maryab, Carna, etc. when I do take over Egypt (hopefully. who knows, I still could loose this campaign.

Thanks for the tips!!!

Any more advice is greatly appreciated.


THE P-MAN

[athanaric]

Tier 4 (IIRC) regional MIC in Alexandria will grant you access to Kretan Archers, Galatian Heavy Swordsmen (same dudes that the Ptolies get), and Panda Phalanx (with a nice factional Saba skin). Probably also Katapeltai. Definitely an incentive to capture that province.

[PelicanMan]

Tier 4 (IIRC) regional MIC in Alexandria will grant you access to Kretan Archers, Galatian Heavy Swordsmen (same dudes that the Ptolies get), and Panda Phalanx (with a nice factional Saba skin). Probably also Katapeltai. Definitely an incentive to capture that province.

Definitely. Especially splitting up the Ptole's land in two. That might cause some damage. I am definitely excited about the Galatian Heavy Swordsmen and Kretan Archers... those will be pretty sweet.
THE P-MAN

[Blxz]

Happy birthday for tomorrow. How old will you be?

[PelicanMan]

29
and wow is my head pounding right now at work. lol

[PelicanMan]

Hey Guys,

I want to show you guys what I meant with the map that I printed out on a plotter (24" x 36") so I am going to provide you with my immersion into the game. I have basically used Risk pieces for the markings, and I will better explain what each piece represents.

Here is the Map:







As you can see in the first picture, I have also shown the building browser that I have printed out on 12" x 36". I have color coordinated faction and army location too.

GREEN - Saba
YELLOW - Ptolei
BLACK - AS
RED - Rebel
BLUE - Spies


The Three Star pieces represent cities, and the Five Star pieces represent armies that can only be seen at the current state.

I have also begun sending out spies everywhere. I still have not made a city rebel, but I am getting real close with Alexandrea. Also I am trying for Charax to rebel too... that one is a tough cookie.

Sometime this weekend I will provide another update; I have plated 10 turns since last update so a few more and I will provide a lengthy update next time.

Hope you all enjoyed this!

Any Feedback is more then welcome and advice is always considered and appreciated!!!

(of coarse, no costume wearing... lol Sorry Brennus .)

THE P-MAN

EDIT: - I JUST BOUGHT MY NEW COMPUTER!!!!! - YAY
Alienware X51
Intel® Core™ i5-2320 3.0GHz (6MB Cache) with Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
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1000GB SATA 3 hard drive (7200RPM)
1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 555
Slot-Loading Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW)

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3 weeks delivery =

[Arjos]

You are crazy!!!

In the most awesome way though :D

[PelicanMan]

Thanks Arjos...

I updated the post; I just bought a new computer!!!! finally I get to play on a decent rig with a decent monitor.
Can't wait!!!

THE P-MAN

[Moros]

This threads makes me smile. Great to see you having such a great time with the mod.

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

Fantastic map printout! I wish I had one, I'd frame it and hang it on my wall!

The Risk pieces are a good idea too, bring the map to life. Although I'd put the three-star pieces the other way up, so they look like a house roof, that way they'd be easier to distinguish from the five-star armies.

Where's your goblet of wine and plate of dates and figs? Every general deserves refreshment ;)

[PelicanMan]

Fantastic map printout! I wish I had one, I'd frame it and hang it on my wall!

The Risk pieces are a good idea too, bring the map to life. Although I'd put the three-star pieces the other way up, so they look like a house roof, that way they'd be easier to distinguish from the five-star armies.

Where's your goblet of wine and plate of dates and figs? Every general deserves refreshment ;)

I'm Polish... Tonight I proved it with Shots of vodka and home made kielbasa (me and my dad make it fresh)

Anyways, this is drunken jabber (family is over to celebrate my birthday) and my wife is making fun of me. lol
Ah well.

Hope you guys enjoyed the map!!! I will definitely consider the three star pointing up.... good point.
THE P-MAN

[Blxz]

Oh. My. God.

You are a dedicated fan alright and I am mightily impressed. Also the building tree down the bottom of the map. Cool reference.
And I can see why your wife is making fun of you

EDIT: Actually, you have given me the motivation to continue one of my EB games. Much appreciated. Keep these Saba updates coming!!

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

I whole heartedly agree with Moros. I'm smiling.

Btw, how was the homemade Kielbasa? Always wanted to make my own sausage.

[PelicanMan]

I whole heartedly agree with Moros. I'm smiling.

Btw, how was the homemade Kielbasa? Always wanted to make my own sausage.

Thanks for the positive feedback Sir Robin

As for the Kielbasa, my dad has been making it for about 10 years now, and I just got involved about two years ago. It tastes great!!! I live in Windsor, Ontario and everytime we go to a Polish Wedding or an event, me and my dad make the deli meat portion of it (its called Kolacje - late night meal) and everybody is aware of the quality of the meats. Let's just say everybody that has tried it or heard about it gives absolutely great reviews or they can't wait to try it.

We also make smoked hams, turkey, Krakowska Kielbasa (its like 2" in diameter), double smoked bacon, all types of fish (in a separate smokehouse not to stink up the meats) including whitefish, trout, salmon, etc.

Its always a good time making it too... me and my dad also drink a little too while we make it (home made alcohol which is served at Christmas, Easter, birthdays, etc). We also try to make it on a day where there is Hockey throughout the day or a football (american) game. Summer months my family is with us and they go swimming while we are smoking the meats.

Anyways, I should have an update sometime Monday; I plan on playing tomorrow night or even tonight if I don't drink too much (My birthday this past Thursday, my father-in-law's birthday today, and my Brother-in-law's wife's birthday I think on Sunday... It'll take me a couple days to recover from all of this...) After this weekend, no drinking for like a month. lol

THE P-MAN

[moonburn]

considering the dates i think your family really really really really enjoys spring

[Kull]

Great thread!

[PelicanMan]

I lost everything.... I hate computers.

Its a good thing my new one is coming in a couple weeks.
ah well. It was fun while it lasted. CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! %&$*%&%^$*%*&^%*&%$&*^&%*&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to disappoint.

THE P-MAN

[Moros]

I lost everything.... I hate computers.

Its a good thing my new one is coming in a couple weeks.
ah well. It was fun while it lasted. CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! %&$*%&%^$*%*&^%*&%$&*^&%*&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to disappoint.

THE P-MAN

Ah yes we've all been there. Hope you'll have as much fun in your next campaign!

[Andres]

Sorry to hear that, P-MAN

I can only echo Moros and hope to see you back here soon with pictures of maps. In the meanwhile, you now have more time to eat kielbasa, so not everything is bad

[PelicanMan]

I will... Thanks.

What sucks is that I spent alot of time writing all this up and getting immersed into this campaign and for what!?!? Damn computer.

THE P-MAN

[d'Arthez]

Sorry to hear that. Just remind yourself that your new rig will be with you soon. Enjoy your next campaign.

[XSamatan]

Did your PC blow up or is it related to EB?

[PelicanMan]

well, it puffed the magic dragon. lol it did blow up. It was an OOOLLLLDDDD Rig... not even a gaming computer. So I definitely cannot wait for the Alienware X51 to come in.