SOPA strike

**critviz** · 01-17-2012, 04:52

Those are some good news!! Looks like I see that many of you are against the idea so I will not insist on this "nonsense".

**Papewaio** · 01-17-2012, 08:38

For:
There is a precedence for shutting down the Backroom for the winter truce.

Wikipedia is looking at shutting down too.

So if it was limited to the Backroom I wouldn't have any objection.

Against:
I do find it very US centric however, and almost arrogant in assuming that the US = Internet. If we were to take a more eglatarian approach we would be closed 24/7 in protest of Chinese censorship. Hardly a practical approach. So given neither the specific nor general cases should be heeded IMDHO we should just get on with it.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 01-18-2012, 01:38

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Against:
I do find it very US centric however, and almost arrogant in assuming that the US = Internet.

No offense but US=internet. When the US makes rules regarding internet or IP, they force it on other countries. They blackmailed Spain into following US law, they forced Sweden into taking down the Pirate Bay under US and not Swedish law. The US does in fact make the global rules when it coems to the internet.

**critviz** · 01-18-2012, 05:35

Wikipedia is joining and Google will too. Might as well shut down the thrown room. I know that many of you don't like the idea but at least other sites won't be able to say that we didn't at least try to contribute. I'm not saying that the Org will make a difference by shutting down or something like that but at least you can tell your grand kids that you helped try to stop something. I don't know abut you guys but this generation seems kind of lazy compare to what other people protested and were passionate about back in the day. I'm not asking for much...

**Montmorency** · 01-18-2012, 05:39

Wikipedia is joining and Google will too. Might as well shut down the thrown room. I know that many of you don't like the idea but at least other sites won't be able to say that we didn't at least try to contribute. I'm not saying that the Org will make a difference by shutting down or something like that but at least you can tell your grand kids that you helped try to stop something. I don't know abut you guys but this generation seems kind of lazy compare to what other people protested and were passionate about back in the day. I'm not asking for much...

You want us to retroactively shame our descendants? Or do you expect that this will seem heroic to them?

**Drunk Clown** · 01-18-2012, 08:23

Cool story to tell your kids

**naut** · 01-18-2012, 08:58

Write a letter to your Conressman/woman, infinity more powerful and useful than shutting down a small forum for a day.

**Papewaio** · 01-19-2012, 09:31

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

No offense but US=internet. When the US makes rules regarding internet or IP, they force it on other countries. They blackmailed Spain into following US law, they forced Sweden into taking down the Pirate Bay under US and not Swedish law. The US does in fact make the global rules when it coems to the internet.

Not quite. The US is the major player for the internet. But it is not the sole player. After all HTML was developed at CERN, DNS servers are distributed around the world, the specifications are driven through RFCs which in turn are contributed to globally.

If the US equaled the internet they'd be able to stop Chinese censorship that hurts US business interests and they'd be able to shutdown Russian hackers in an instant rather then watch them post their exploits with location. And pirate bay wouldn't still be around too.

**Drunk Clown** · 01-19-2012, 12:14

The Wikipedia shutdown was ridiculous.

First of all only the en.wikipedia.org was shut down, so I could still go to the acceptable nl.wikipedia.org.
Secondly you could just use google cache to view Wikipedia.

**Jolt** · 01-19-2012, 14:40

Originally Posted by Drunk Clown

The Wikipedia shutdown was ridiculous.

First of all only the en.wikipedia.org was shut down, so I could still go to the acceptable nl.wikipedia.org.
Secondly you could just use google cache to view Wikipedia.

The blackout wasn't about preventing you from going through the wikipedia. Simply shutting down your javascript would allow you to go through english wikipedia normally. They did that to raise world public awareness, and more specifically in the US, to get news headlines, get people talking about the blackout and the law itself, why it's bad and why it needs to be stopped.

**Drunk Clown** · 01-19-2012, 20:27

Originally Posted by Jolt

The blackout wasn't about preventing you from going through the wikipedia. Simply shutting down your javascript would allow you to go through english wikipedia normally. They did that to raise world public awareness, and more specifically in the US, to get news headlines, get people talking about the blackout and the law itself, why it's bad and why it needs to be stopped.

Then they could've done it otherwise. Just a notification when you go to en.wikipedia.org which fills the screen and then continue to Wikipedia itself.