So... I was told to state my theory on Abrahamic religions here.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think that the whole God created the universe is a straw man. I don't think the Bible really claims it. Looking through most of the creation stories and religious text that deals with before the creation, you might notice that most if not all deals with the creation of this system (solar).

I was hoping someone would quote Nietzshe on the issue of Religion and Nihilism. I think he had his own definition of what nihilism was all about.

That rather depends on whether you're reading the Bible or Aquinas, but even in the Bible God creates the firmament, it just doesn't explain what he did with/to those other stars.

I disagree. What I did was simply to take the familiar deities and put them in a different perspective.

A religious person puts faith in whatever deity the person believes in, whereas an areligious person would not. In the case of atheism, no deities are thought to exist. In the case of nihilism, it is my argument that one could, for whatever reason, believe that a certain deity exists, but that the deity is not what it claims to be. So, same deity, different interpretation.

In other words, I do not find that nihilism implies atheism, insofar as atheism excludes the existence of deities.

Well, I dissagree with your dissagreement. Few theistic models today postulate "deities", pretty much all of them have just one primal, irresistable force which created and controls (at least passively) everything. There is only one correct interpretation of this deity if you believe in it, anything else is insane. To put it another way, there's no point believing the all-powerful ruler of the universe is a dick, because you can't do anything about it.

There are several theories being postulated as to the purpose of the Universe. One claims that when the true scope and purpose of the universe has been discovered, including why it is here, the Universe will instantly disappear. And from this, it will be replaced by something even more bizarre and complex. And other's claim that this has already happened.

I think this discussion arose due to my first post, which says something like "I'm a nihilistic atheist". In retrospect, it doesn't make much sense, so I will explain my transition from being part if a religious sect, to dismissing all religions, on the basis that they are scientifically incorrect.

I'm Japanese. I was born into a Shinto-Buddhist family. Whatever. When I got to age 13, I started to question religions (including my own, which is not really a religion). And thus, I became an agnostic. I was only agnostic for about a year, before I became a deist. I was a deist until the age of 18, whereby I embraced atheism. Now this is where my "nihilistic" thoughts began.

I have manic depression, without the depression part. I can be quite loony and think abstract thoughts, and then I go back down into the logical thought. When I'm "manic", I start to question not only the purpose of myself, but the purpose of everything. If we all die, in the end, what's the point in doing anything? What's the point in finding love (which I tend to walk away from), what is the point in playing Shogun 2 for 8 hours straight. What's the point in researching animal behaviour?

In the end, we all die. Which is another reason why I posted my "theory" in the first post. This fear of death gave rise to religion. When I questioned everything, I did not become scared. Scared of what's to come. No, I just wanted answers.

Then, my "mania" stops. And I do play Shogun 2 for 8 hours straight (on occasion). I do study animal behaviour. I then realise I'm doing it for short term satisfaction. That's all life really is. Short term satisfaction.

That sounds like something other than manic depression, but in any case you've gone from denigrating religion for not being scientifically "correct" to proffering pseudo-scientific myths about the purpose of the universe.

The fact is, "purpose" is not a scientific concept, so if you want "purpose" you need more than science.

thats all life is and probably can ever be to science. because what it is, is descriptive and such is science. what it can be or ought to be is normative and is beyond the realm of scientific duty.

btw if you play STW2 8 hours straight u need to get yourself checked. and ask yourself why the in name of hell and heaven arent you playing RTW EB.

Nice to know it's still appreciated.