Megaupload down

[Greyblades]

Personally I don't care very much that people download and/or view digital media without paying, I do it every day just from youtube, and I allways thought that attempts to stop it has been wasting more money than all the sales/reparations could ever be gained from it. But actively making money of other people's work without consent is just being a [expletive relating to a vital part of male anatomy].

Also, the 50 minute viewing for one hour waiting thing on megavideo was annoying, good riddence.

[gaelic cowboy]

there is quite literally only two ways out of this whole paying/pirating content arguement, they will either have to charge for data over the internet or reduce the price of content to such a low level that people dont bother to pirate it.

If films were very cheap and I'm thinking no more than 2 or 3 quid then who would bother spending an evening downloading a fuzzy copy of the next holywood blockbuster with annoying subtitles.

Basically costs will have to come down so that money can be made back on 5 euro cinema ticket or 2-3 euro download.

[Greyblades]

I was under the impression that the only movies that anyone bother downloading are either crystal clear HD-DVD footage or camera-hidden-in-the-cinema copies of new releases.

Also there's generaly a reason they dont release movies for internet viewing, anyone with a little technical savvy can easily record whats going on on thier screen. It would be the compaines giving pirates free HD DVD's while forcing the honest public to wait months for overpriced copies.

Edit: Whoops, I misread the last post, and the last two sentances are pointless. Still, by the time the companies are selling the DVD's the pirates would already be circulating HD versions of the movies, so unless the filmmakers were giving away movies for free most pirates would not even bother paying that 2-3 quid.

[gaelic cowboy]

I was under the impression that the only movies that anyone bother downloading are either crystal clear HD-DVD footage or camera-hidden-in-the-cinema copies of new releases.

and the camera in the cinema one hurts cinema ticket sales as there gernerally new realease and not on dvd yet.

Also there's generaly a reason they dont release movies for internet viewing, anyone with a little technical savvy can easily record whats going on on thier screen. It would be the compaines giving pirates free HD DVD's while forcing the honest public to wait months for overpriced copies.

naturally but as Tommy Tiernan pointed out we have heard all that before with the taping of the radio crisis. It was rubbish then and it's still rubbish now.

The solution is as Lemur has pointed out is some kind of Netflix thingy, then we can dispense with DVD/Bluray and with paymovie channels like sky movies.
Your still paying for a service but you get to watch what you want and crucially when you want, the revenue now pays for what you recieve over the internet and not for flim flam boxsets or exclusive deals with sky.

People are inherently lazy if it's cheap enough they wont bother filling dvd discs and hard drives with films recorded of there PC/TV

[Greyblades]

naturally but as Tommy Tiernan pointed out we have heard all that before with the taping of the radio crisis. It was rubbish then and it's still rubbish now.

Tell that to the Studios.

[gaelic cowboy]

Tell that to the Studios.

Half the time it is there own fault reinventing massively exspensive 3d in the hopes it would generate cinema sales (it wont) or remaking stuff that is hardly old in order to have a know brand.

Plus overpaying various actors to such an extent they dont make there money back etc etc is another one, again purely to have a know brand on board even when it makes no sense economically.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/12...pomerantz.html

[rvg]

Half the time it is there own fault reinventing massively exspensive 3d in the hopes it would generate cinema sales (it wont) or remaking stuff that is hardly old in order to have a know brand.

Plus overpaying various actors to such an extent they dont make there money back etc etc is another one, again purely to have a know brand on board even when it makes no sense economically.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/12...pomerantz.html

That does not justify stealing their intellectual property though.

[Lemur]

Feh. The most effective way to combat piracy, based on actual data and usage, is Netflix, not heavy-handed policing. Naturally, since Netflix is a tangible, provable tonic to the curse of piracy, the studios are doing everything in their power to kill it.

[Vladimir]

Yea, I wondered what was up with that. I love this quote:

In response, the hackers group Anonymous has targeted the FBI and US Department of Justice websites.

Brilliant gentlemen.

We're the USA. We have jurisdiction wherever the corporations paying to politician's campaign funds demand we have jurisdiction.

This site was taken down without due process and people arrested on the other side of the globe without SOPA at that.

CR

Really people. Did you even read the article? See the above comment.

[Greyblades]

Feh. The most effective way to combat piracy, based on actual data and usage, is Netflix, not heavy-handed policing. Naturally, since Netflix is a tangible, provable tonic to the curse of piracy, the studios are doing everything in their power to kill it.

Heh, 10 years ago the best way to fight piracy was not to call attention to it and keep the public ignorant that there was a free, easy and painless alternative to DVD's. Naturally they went balls to the wall, batsmack crazy and yelled "pirate! pirate!" at anyone who watched thier films, bought thier videos or even watched adverts on TV.

[Husar]

Personally I don't care very much that people download and/or view digital media without paying, I do it every day just from youtube, and I allways thought that attempts to stop it has been wasting more money than all the sales/reparations could ever be gained from it.

It's easy on Youtube, and it got me interested in some things as well, only to find out that getting them here is either impossible or horribly expensive in some cases.
I would often listen to a song on youtube and then go and look where I can buy it online. As I said a free demo is always a good thing. Similar to how a business wants to know what they get before hiring me, I want to know what I get before buying their products.
What I find problematic are people who have to have a library of music and movies and whatnot scattered over many HDDs without paying for any of that, they don't just test stuff, they want to have all of it and pay for none of it. Not all people go to such extremes but quite a few people have a large amount of songs on their mp3 players that they listen to often and never paid for etc.