The continuation of my Israel experience thread

[Hooahguy]

I wouldnt even be able to recognize a Palestinian except if they are wearing a keffiyeh, they look so similar to many non-religious Israelis.

Also what really grinds my gears is how early everything shuts down where I live. I just got back from an outing to Jerusalem to see some friends. I got off the bus near the local pizza store near my institution at 10:45. Everything was shut down. I was really hungry so I was hoping that I could grab a slice, but nope, it was shut down too.
What the is wrong with this place?

[lars573]

I wouldnt even be able to recognize a Palestinian except if they are wearing a keffiyeh, they look so similar to many non-religious Israelis.

I make no claims to it's truthiness. Only that he related the anecdote in his article on being part of the second Gaza blockade flotilla. And that he claimed the Israeli customers of the shop would be able to recognize a Palestinian. Even if it was by how they spoke Arabic, and not some visual cue.

Also what really grinds my gears is how early everything shuts down where I live. I just got back from an outing to Jerusalem to see some friends. I got off the bus near the local pizza store near my institution at 10:45. Everything was shut down. I was really hungry so I was hoping that I could grab a slice, but nope, it was shut down too.
What the is wrong with this place?

It's under the sway of religious nut bags?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Not necessarily. For example, long opening times is as much a sign of economic need as anything else. Take for example the “supermarkets” that they have in semi-rural south east England. You know, where Sainsbury's is advertising with how it keeps the villages alive by providing a single extremely shy and probably not very well paid employee to man the counter of the local supermarket...

That's just (relative) poverty. Not religious freedom, per se. Those shops would otherwise not net enough revenue to keep going, so they have little choice but to accept very long opening times.

Similar shops in the Netherlands just don't bother with 06:00 - 23:00 opening hours, as they can afford not to.

EDIT: I als raise my hand for the knowing muslims who don't object to Jews scoreboard.

[Moros]

Raises both hands. Sorry frags, but the ones I know don't hate jews.

[Hax]

Even if it was by how they spoke Arabic, and not some visual cue.

Probably by the way they speak Hebrew. Of course, I think that they'd just try to avoid any contact, because at the moment they'd actually have to speak to Israelis, their Arabic accent would come through. I noticed this when talking to one of my Israeli friends, he kept saying "Chamas" while I pronounce it "Hamas" with as a voiceless pharyngeal fricative (I'd had to look that one up, hah).

[Fragony]

Ha all you raising your hand must have been asking the wrong questions, scratch the surface a little and things might just look less good. Try asking why the muslim world is such a mess for example. Want to make a bet on what the answer will be? Try pointing out that Hamas isn't very nice, Antisemitism is rabid among muslims, if you deny that I really got to question your judgement.

[Husar]

Ha all you raising your hand must have been asking the wrong questions, scratch the surface a little and things might just look less good. Try asking why the muslim world is such a mess for example. Want to make a bet on what the answer will be? Try pointing out that Hamas isn't very nice, Antisemitism is rabid among muslims, if you deny that I really got to question your judgement.

Might have something to do with semites charging into muslim lands, blowing people up and then re-establishing a state from 2000BC that they illegally grow further and further while thinking violence and threats are the best way to go forward? Just too bad that they ran into a bunch of similarly-minded people.