Unit stacking?

[Nightmare]

Are you sure you want to warm up that? Be the grown up and let it go. I suggest you edit out the last part of that post, because it resembles pouring gasoline over glowing ashes.

What? Why do you think that?

At any rate, in case you misinterpreted or misread, I was trying to say that XSamatan's info that EB team members do hang out here on the forum on occasion might help explain some of the reactions I was getting, that's all. Now, maybe it doesn't explain it (I haven't gone back to check any banners or signatures of who was involved). But maybe it does explain it. At least I'd like to think or hope it does.

As an example of what I was trying to say, pretend for a moment that you are a conneseur of runway models who likes to attend modeling events. As you are standing in the audience (or hell, perhaps you are even a judge on a panel), you see one particular model come out, twirl around, then leave the runway. It would be one thing to remark to your friend in the audience, or to your colleague on the panel "I noticed a little unsightly lower back flab as she was walking away. Perhaps she needs to wear clothes that don't expose the flaw, or she needs to do more exercise or something." But it would be another thing entirely to approach her, to her face, and say something to the effect of "you suck." The first is entirely appropriate and acceptable. The second isn't, because it is personal.

I was saying that if I inadvertently did the second thing without knowing it (because I didn't know team members hung out here, didn't know the meaning of signatures and banners and what not), that would certainly explain things that were, up until now, inexplicable to me. That's all I was saying.

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is here, but this is at least the 10th time I've had to write a bunch of stuff to explain something that I said previously. Not sure why that's the case, because I made straight As in such things as english, writing, communication, essay, technical writing, etc. Said another way, my communication skills aren't bad. At any rate, I think the discussion on unit stacking seems to be over, and the thread has derailed to other things, so discussion should probably come to a close unless someone else pops in with something to say.

Regards.

[Lysimachos]

What? Why do you think that?

I had almost come to the conclusion that I was dealing with some isolated hippie commune that had no dealings with the outside world, or perhaps a bunch of homeschooled kids or something.

Because I would not discard the possibility that some of the people that disagreed with your opinions might find offense with the insinuations of above highlighted statements from you and react accordingly.

Of course it's your call, I just wanted to point out the impression I got and I certainly don't want to start an argument about it.

[Nightmare]

Because I would not discard the possibility that some of the people that disagreed with your opinions might find offense with the insinuations of above highlighted statements from you and react accordingly.

Of course it's your call, I just wanted to point out the impression I got and I certainly don't want to start an argument about it.

It's sort of ironic. You DO realize that you are "proving my point?" Isolated hippie communes and the like are places where normal social norms don't apply and work so well, because they have created their own social norms. You could walk into such a place, say "hi, how are you doing?" and be physically assaulted because you insulted someone. Places like that are notoriously thin-skinned towards "outsiders" because of the way the cultures rub against each other.

Back to this forum, this thread - you are very worried that someone here could take offense at what I wrote, which you quoted. In other words, you are worried that there are some fairly thin skins around. Do you see a little irony in that (re-read the first paragraph directly above this one if necessary)?

Either way, the first reason what I wrote is fine is, people on public forums and what not who are adults simply need to develop thicker skins than what might be appropriate at an isolated hippie commune. Jesus H. Christ, what I wrote that you quoted, even if I was totally serious, **PALES** in comparison to what you see on total bland absolutely normal forums on the internet (you HAVE been to other forums on the internet... haven't you?). I mean, if you see potential offense in what I just wrote above, I'd hate to see you at a place where things might REALLY get contentious, like at a place where politics is discussed for instance. I mean, even at the starcraft forum, every other post contains stuff **WAY** more offensive than what I just wrote. And it's just normal stuff.

The second reason what I wrote is fine is...

I had ALMOST come to the conclusion...

I said "almost." I didn't say "did."

The third reason what I wrote is fine is, even if I didn't say "almost" (I did), it was a private conclusion I "almost" came to. I can come to whatever private conclusions I want (or, "almost" come to them).

The fourth reason what I wrote is fine is, it isn't (necessarily) an insult to live in an isolated hippie commune, or be homeschooled. While I've never wanted to live in a hippie communune, I do wish I had been homeschooled myself, and will certainly homeschool my own kids, I'll just make sure they get out from time to time to see the real world and develop some sort of a skin so they don't have the potential problem we are discussing now.

The fifth reason what I wrote is fine is, while I had honestly almost come to that private conclusion, I voiced it to try and inject a little humor into the situation - granted in a dry sort of way. (By the way, people with thin-skins who live in isolated hippie communes are notoriously devoid of humor, or at least outsider humor. Again, that irony thing I'm pointing out.)

I can go on and on here. But the bottom line is, at some point, if people want to be offended at every little statement someone makes, and they want to go through life in a constant state of being offended, I can't much be worried about it. I mean, at some point people have to take responsibility for their own propensity to be offended at things. I mean, God forbid they go into an office every day at some normal job - they simply wouldn't be able to function. Hell, God forbid they went to the public schools I went to, or rode on the public school buses I rode on. I guess I'm glad they didn't - they'd be dead.

Well, I've run out of patience explaining every little thing I've said ad infinitum. It tends to make me think I really DID stumble upon some isolated hippie commune. I understand you said you didn't want to start an argument. Don't worry, no offense taken here, and "no harm no foul." :-)

Have a nice day :-)

[PureEvil[PIE]]

I've been reading this particular thread and I thought the topic was actually really interesting, about unit stacking (learnt stuff that I didn't know about previously!). However, I think the problem came about when you started insulting the general community, calling them a "hippie commune", although you eh...tried to explain that I guess? And I think you come across a little arrogant with you portraying your grades in "communications" skills, I don't think many people really care, I myself got almost straight A's in my subjects and go to a very well respected sixth form, but I don't see the point in bragging about it on an online forum about a game. I personally think you're fine, just try and keep a cooler head and think more about how you're portraying yourself.

[Blxz]

I am going to bust out the personal attacks here for a quick second and say this guy has some social issues. Hurling attacks at people like you have been doing, and your inability to even realise it, has been a staple of every single thread you have posted in. You are continually writing these big posts where you quote things and make both very direct and more subtle insults to almost every single person and yet when someone calls you up on this you retaliate even further.

I suggest you ease up on further attacks or I will report your posts to forum administrators. If the local ones don't do anything then I will move up the chain of command. You have not made a single constructive or thoughtful post in this entire forum that I am aware of and continue to subtly refer to previous times when normal people, EB team members and forum admins have chastised you for your quite rude and over-the-top remarks.

Please stop posting ignorant and blatantly hurtful remarks in the effort to insult people who disagree with you.

[Nightmare]

And I think you come across a little arrogant with you portraying your grades in "communications" skills, I don't think many people really care, I myself got almost straight A's in my subjects and go to a very well respected sixth form, but I don't see the point in bragging about it on an online forum about a game.

Come on, bro... REALLY? You REALLY considered that bragging? And you REALLY didn't see the point?

The point of the "brag" (cough) was simply to say I'm trying to find the source of the communication problems (just like we are having now, yet again), and the first place I looked was at myself. But nobody else anywhere else seems to have a problem understanding me. That was the point. You'd think that if I was a poor communicator, it would show up in grades dealing with communication, like, well, Communication, or Essay, or English, or ... etc. That was the point.

I personally think you're fine, just try and keep a cooler head and think more about how you're portraying yourself.

We're cool, bro - no harm no foul as far as I'm concerned. Heck, I'm glad you said you got something out of the topic of this post, because at least that means it did some kind of constructive good somewhere.

Anyway, try that unit stacking out and see what you think about it.

Regards.

EDIT: If you or anyone else wants to discuss this or anything else further, just shoot me a PM and take it offline - thanks.

[Jormungand]

I don't think he'll see that, Blxz, I believe he's blocked you.

However, Nightmare, I do believe I can speak for most of the people out here that you come off as highly verbose and condescending. Key phrase - "come off as".
Maybe you're not even aware of it. Perhaps you believe you are the opposite, but in an Internet forum where the main level of interaction is typed words and messages on computers, emotions and meanings can be distorted and sometimes viewed in a different light to which they were originally intended to. I think you should keep this in mind when you construct an argument/proposal to a particular topic. Perceptions can be important, especially online.

As people have duly mentioned before, your several long posts with quotations come across as not only unnecessary but incredibly combative and arrogant.
I, myself, find it incredibly strange how you take it upon yourself to reply in lengthy and winding fashion merely to justify your points about a modification of a computer game. You take things way too far in this regard.

While I acknowledge that you recently have been making an attempt to appear slightly less antagonistic/more understanding of others' views, maybe you should remember one thing - this is a game.

This is not political debate, a legal tussle or verbal sparring to measure out who is more proficient in words and arguing.
Put your arguments in perspective and, as I believe I have said before, loosen up and chill out just a bit.

[EDIT] I just read Nightmare's request for PMs as opposed to posts. My apologies to those of you who didn't want to see yet another lengthy and unrelated reply to this topic.