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    Well you could say one reason for the fall of the Roman empire was that they underestimated the Germanics, tho not their soldiers, as they knoew those perfectly well as theirs were identical but their Chieftains. And don't get me wrong I don't think these "kings" were particulary clever and the Romans underestimated that, they rather underestimated The chiefs in that way that they did not expect them to turn against them^^.
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    Interesting information, thanks guys. I've found some faults of my own with this book. Like the author using the modern terms "broadsword' and "chainmail" which I so detest. But that's probably done so the book is more accessible to your average DnD geek who likes swords. But then again he didn't manage to squeeze in the ultimate sword (the katana if you don't know) so maybe not all the geeks would like it.

    Truth be told, in the section on Vercigentorix he does give tremendous credit to the German cavalry. Usually the German cav mercs employed by Caesar would smash the Gaulic cavalry, or so he says. Naturally these horsemen did not fight with sharpened sticks nor did they sit butt-naked on their mounts.

    I was mainly surprised at Caesar's report that the Germans "despised agriculture". True, we must be sceptical of his writings as historical facts, hence me asking. I fired up EB just to check the Sweboz starting position and I sat there, drooling at the sound of that awesome horn blowing over the dense woods of northern Europe. Truly a great mod this is!

    BTW i have some more questions that have always plagued me and I could never find specific information on these:

    - What of Scandinavia during these times? Who inhabited it? Did the Romans even know it was there?

    - How do the tribes of Europe turn from Gauls/Germanians/Vandals/Visgoths/Ostrogoths etc. into the Frankish Kingdom, the Lombards and all the other dark age Kingdoms that lead up to Charlemagne's Euorpe and the start of the middle-ages? What prompted the shift from tribe>chieftan to kingdom>king? How did it happen?

    - What accounts do we have of where these tribes came from and when? Celts and Germans mostly, I know about Thrace/Illyria and for Rome we have myths intertwined with history.
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