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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    Although I could invade Britain and expand in the Mediterrean I don't really get the imperial feel from midgame I get with the Romani, Hellenic and Eastern factions. It's easier to roleplay huge empires with those in my opinion.
    Absolutly. With the Romans, one of the Successors or the Parthians you have some kind of "mission" to subdue large parts of the maps that's somehow lacking when playing a Barbarian faction. For example, it does feel somewhat odd when creating something like the Ottonian Empire with the Sweboz, try to unite all Celts across the map with the Aedui or hopping over to Africa with the Lusotans.

    I have now (re-)started a Casse campaign. This time I did not disband my ship and army but crossed the channel to get my hands on Belgia proper. So far I am enjoying it very much and I am looking foreward to the "Hundred Years Wars" with the Aedui while at the time very slowly expanding in Britain.

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    I love the barbarian factions. The Casse and Aedui being my favourite along with AS and Sauromatae. The unit variation which people have been discussing is certainly one of the main attractions with the barbarian fwctions, not to mention some of the units available to barbarian factions like the Belgic Minhalt, Leuce Epos, Cidanh (there is nothing better for dealing with light cav) and Venetic ships. My main drawback when playing as the barbarians is I am not very good at it. I have got close a few times with the Casse and my current Aedui campaign has already seen the sacking of Rome but I always find myself in a Sweboz-Roman vice with an economy insufficient to enable a counter offensive.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    I have got close a few times with the Casse and my current Aedui campaign has already seen the sacking of Rome but I always find myself in a Sweboz-Roman vice with an economy insufficient to enable a counter offensive.
    I had this problem with the Aedui, that's the main reason I haven't completed that campaign yet. I was too busy fighting the Arverni and Lusotann I was taken by surprise when I suddenly saw brown armies peering into view :<.

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    Sorry to sound rude but how long have you been fighting the Arverni for?



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    Not sure in years/seasons, but I did put them down quite early, I was just fighting Lusotann and Romans (towards the most recent of my campaigning with Aedui), I didn't venture far North so I didn't notice the Sweboz getting stronger. How could you sound rude o.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureEvil[PIE] View Post
    Not sure in years/seasons, but I did put them down quite early, I was just fighting Lusotann and Romans (towards the most recent of my campaigning with Aedui), I didn't venture far North so I didn't notice the Sweboz getting stronger. How could you sound rude o.o
    I was just worried when you said you were fighting the Lusotanni and Arverni you meant at the same time, either meaning that the Lusotanni had blitzed up to Gaul or you were taking a long time to beat the Arverni. I didn't wan't to cause offence by saying "You should really have the Arverni beat in the first 2 years" and have you say something along the lines of "Serious!?". A little trick for you when playing as the Aedui, once you have beaten the Arverni there is no better time to invade Rome. The Romans are occupied with the Epirots in Tarentum and by hugging the Appenine mountains you can fight your battles defensively, let the legions wear themsevles out climbing to meet you and then smash them with a charge of botroas. This way I managed to sneek into Italy, sack Rome and burn the Capitol. In honour of my namesake I got them to pay me to go away and using a non-agression pact they were more than happy to sign I was able to get back across the Alps with my army in tact.

    Venturing north as the Gauls is a very good idea, IMO, it opens up more ports ot trade with the Britons (lots of lovely tin to be had) and gives you access to three of the best troop types available to the Celts: Remi cavalry, Belgic spearmen (impassable) and Belgic swordsmen (unstoppable). It does mean you keep having to watch the Sweboz border but with Belgic troops its possible to break pretty much any German invasion. It's the Romans who you have to be wary of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    I was just worried when you said you were fighting the Lusotanni and Arverni you meant at the same time, either meaning that the Lusotanni had blitzed up to Gaul or you were taking a long time to beat the Arverni. I didn't wan't to cause offence by saying "You should really have the Arverni beat in the first 2 years" and have you say something along the lines of "Serious!?".
    Depends. I like to press the Arverni eastwards (after having taken Viennos and Gergovia) to create a buffer between me and the Suebi. Doesn't always work though. In one campaign (abandoned due to corrupted savegame files) the Arverni just didn't fight the Swêboz. In fact, they surrendered faster than their descendants did in WWII. It was really awful. It works well though when I'm playing the Swêboz, and using the Arverni as a shield to the West and South.


    It's the Romans who you have to be wary of.
    Especially seeing as you don't have dedicated AP troops. Teceitos are only recruitable in some border provinces and become unavailable after the second reform. Tekastos and Appea Gaedotos are good but only regionally available as well. Not to mention they're not really Gallic (meaning it doesn't feel right to use them in "royal" armies or to spam them like Gaelaiche or Bataroas). Likewise for Illyrian clubmen (with the additional problem that they're useless against other barbarians). Sure, slingers and cavalry have AP attacks, but they aren't too terribly effective vs Romans as main damage dealers. This is what I dislike about the Gallic factions. All other barbarians have some basic anti-armour unit that is widely available in their homeland (Casse - Teceitos; Getai - Drapanai/Kostobok axemen; Lusotannan - Caetrannan; Swêboz - Sloxonez).




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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    and gives you access to three of the best troop types available to the Celts: Remi cavalry, Belgic spearmen (impassable) and Belgic swordsmen (unstoppable).
    I am a little suspicious of bias due to your field of study.
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