It's not EBII but.....

[Blxz]

That link has some obvious copy and pasted unitcards also. In the second picture from the top all have been taken from EB except for possibly the 3rd last horse and the identical 3rd, 4th and 5th units. That's blatant theft unless someone gave permission?

[Tux]

No we didn't that's why Banzai, tks for reminding me Ca putt, and his mod got banned from here and twc.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...N-Ancient-Wars
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=521141

[Brennus]

We should send the Celtic Viking retrieve Banzai's head.

[Ca Putt]

No Problem, mutual respect and acknowledgment amongst modders is one of the things I hold somewhat high.

No wonder he has fled to some strange russian forum^^

[fightermedic]

i guess i'll never understand whats so bad about taking other peoples stuff without filling out 3 pages of requests first...
i can understand it if a company does not want it, since they are trying to make money out of it, but with stuff thats distributed freely anyway? where is the problem? (aside from hurt pride for not being asked about it, or feelings that your stuff is "misused", but that are no real problems, just stupid aspects of human life which stand in the way of a better understanding between people :D ) it's not like somebody would take something away...
open source stuff 4 the win ;)

yea i know, i'm totally fighting a lost battle there

[Shadowwalker]

We talk again when you spent a couple of years of your spare time to create something for free and then another one just uses it without giving you credit (and therefore getting the praise from the people that don't know about your work). ;-)

@Topic:
Instead of that (seemingly bugged and small) mod just play Paeninsula Italica II.
Looks better (really!), features accurate history and breathtaking eyecandy like a stratmap model of the famous port of Carthage and the Via Appia (via event), playable Samnites, Boii, Ligurians and a dozen more peoples and has so far the most immersive MII:TW map I ever saw.
And no stolen work included.

[athanaric]

We talk again when you spent a couple of years of your spare time to create something for free and then another one just uses it without giving you credit (and therefore getting the praise from the people that don't know about your work). ;-)

The usage part isn't the problematic aspect of it - they could be using your work for their own private amusement. The real problem is that they - be it implicitly or explicitly - pass of your work as their own. Or (for example, if it's a text) change it and then publish it, perverting the original message and intent.

[Ludens]

i guess i'll never understand whats so bad about taking other peoples stuff without filling out 3 pages of requests first... i can understand it if a company does not want it, since they are trying to make money out of it, but with stuff thats distributed freely anyway? where is the problem? (aside from hurt pride for not being asked about it, or feelings that your stuff is "misused", but that are no real problems, just stupid aspects of human life which stand in the way of a better understanding between people :D ) it's not like somebody would take something away...

Why should I not feel possessive about my own creations? If I were write a book or create a piece of art, I'd like to have some say in what happens with it.

I don't have any problems with open-source, but the idea of copyright is a sound one. Without copyright, the profits of any successful creative work would go to the biggest thief. It doesn't matter whether these profits come in the form of fame or money or website hits, the creator deserves the right to profit from his creation. And if he chooses not to sell it, that still doesn't make it OK for to do so.

Now, if you wish to argue that copyright duration is too long, that copyright protection is often excessive, that SOPA is evil, and so on, I am right there with you. But copyright itself is good.

[Blxz]

To futher Ludens' point, without copyright or any way to protect what is 'yours' then the whole creation process itself would stagnate. Ideas would spread slowly and people would hoard things....capitalism itself wouldn't work, neither would modern medicine or any of the luxury things we take for granted (ipods/automobiles/quadruple-ply extra-soft mega thickness toiletpaper)

And in the case of a mod, these people are doing the work and have not explicitly labelled this stuff as 'free-for-all'. You can use it, just.... ask first and give credit.

[konny]

i guess i'll never understand whats so bad about taking other peoples stuff without filling out 3 pages of requests first...

Three reasons:

1st: It is a matter of respect to the original creator of that piece of art/code. You don't properly credit a guy who's stuff you find so good that you include it into your own mod means you don't respect that guy.

2nd: "Public Applause" is the only reward a modder gets for polishing his mod into publicity releasable form and offering support for people downloading it. When you go and steal that mod, or parts of it, for your own applause you are indeed taking away something that belongs to someone else, even though it cannot be measured in coins. The absolut least thing to do would be to proberly credit the creators so that they get the applause they have earned themselves.

3rd: It is a common custom of the modding community. So in case you go and give somelese's work as yours you are voilating the customs of the community and that you not only don't care about that particular modder but also about the entire community.