Crusader Kings II

[Centurion1]

Been playing a wales campaign its a great bit of fun!

United all of wales, the isle of man, and somerset. My old king was a total bamf but this new guy SUCKS

been sticking to only giving my heir land and the brothers get sent off in matrilineal marriages so i dont worry about hem (keep one or two for necessity obviously)

literally nothing on earth worse than a weak heir.

[rickinator9]

Been playing a wales campaign its a great bit of fun!

United all of wales, the isle of man, and somerset. My old king was a total bamf but this new guy SUCKS

been sticking to only giving my heir land and the brothers get sent off in matrilineal marriages so i dont worry about hem (keep one or two for necessity obviously)

literally nothing on earth worse than a weak heir.

Protip: Be the guardian of your heir

[Centurion1]

Protip: Be the guardian of your heir

Protip: give better pro tips if your going to say pro tip. of course i do.

[rickinator9]

Protip: give better pro tips if your going to say pro tip. of course i do.

How do you get a bad heir if you educate him yourself? Just click the best option(usually the top one).

[Kekvit Irae]

Protip: give better pro tips if your going to say pro tip. of course i do.

A protip is something that is blatantly obvious, even to an idiot, so rick did use a protip properly.

[Monk]

How do you get a bad heir if you educate him yourself? Just click the best option(usually the top one).

Genetic traits are hard to overcome, "weak" or "dwarf" can be especially bad. If you get unlucky and end up with a few of the harder to shake negatives then you're in trouble, even if you educate yourself.

[Kekvit Irae]

Genetic traits are hard to overcome

One word: Filicide.

[naut]

Ensuring the best Muslim heir takes the reigns it tough work!

[Centurion1]

meh he had good traits believe it or not then ended up with an indulgent wastrel. its too bad. His father was the wise and his grandfather the merry. This guy is going to be the dumb***

[Hooahguy]

I was actually a moron and totally forgot about educating my heir (yeah yeah I know) and now the king has only one trait: misguided warrior. Or something like that.

[The Stranger]

so how is the muslim expansion? any good?

[rickinator9]

It's really good. €10 isn't that much for unlocking 1/3 of the world and generally getting an unique experience.

[Centurion1]

i agree with muslim expansion though i think they should have had it all form the start, alas thats the way of the gaming industry now a days.

hooah as far as misguided warrior def could be worse options.

[rickinator9]

i agree with muslim expansion though i think they should have had it all form the start, alas thats the way of the gaming industry now a days.

It's called Crusader Kings 2 for a reason. CK1 didn't even have muslims.

hooah as far as misguided warrior def could be worse options.

Martial is generally useless as a king, unless you want to be Alexander the great. Most kings have courtiers or vassals to do their dirty work.

[johnhughthom]

It's called Crusader Kings 2 for a reason. CK1 didn't even have muslims.

I must have dreamt all those muslims inheriting titles in the British Isles then. I'm pretty sure the game was also moddable to make them playable.

[The Stranger]

its quite hard to have a crusader game without muslims :P unless it was only the teuton crusades XD

[rickinator9]

You didn't mention the moddable muslims were christians with another religion.

Edit: This mod looks really interesting: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...Invicta/page27

[Centurion1]

It's called Crusader Kings 2 for a reason. CK1 didn't even have muslims.

Martial is generally useless as a king, unless you want to be Alexander the great. Most kings have courtiers or vassals to do their dirty work.

Thats a horrible reasoning for not having them. they did it for a quick buck....

and i said there are worse traits to have. not that it was awesome.

[Monk]

Thats a horrible reasoning for not having them. they did it for a quick buck....

and i said there are worse traits to have. not that it was awesome.

I doubt it was that calculated from having looked through the game files. It's pretty clear paradox had to cut a bunch of stuff they wanted to include at launch like viceroys, a relic system tied directly into crusading, choosing regents and expanding that role in your government, ect. Most of this stuff is actually in the game files but incomplete. Lots of localisation calls left unfinished or event chains that end abruptly, or link to events that don't exist. CK2 is probably going to get a lot of mini-expansions, and i'm fine with that, considering how good the vanilla game was to begin with. Paradox has done enough good to endear themselves to me as a customer that I'm willing to put up with DLC, and the quality of their DLC thus far has only confirmed that decision.

While I like SoI but Paradox sorta shot themselves in the foot in the way they chose to implement it. They gave it to everyone with 1.06 but then asked you to unlock what was essentially already downloaded to your hard drive. Ack. That's going to get under some people's skin for sure. However, the new events, CB types, family system and the decadence mechanics added a lot of depth to the muslims. Something they desperately needed since playing them before didn't feel any different than playing the as the west. There are now two distinct ways to play based on what religion you've chosen and I felt that was more than enough to justify a $10 DLC. Some people probably feel differently though.

[Centurion1]

I'm not bashing paradox they make some of my favorite games. And I'm happy to see them make money because I don't want them failing

[naut]

GODDAMN UPDATES! Argh, that's the third time I've had a really enjoyable dynasty made unplayable because an update knocks over my save file. Anyone know a way to roll back to the previous version (using steam)?

And to make it worse, it's all crappy mutliplayer fixes that I care not one iota for! Insult meet injury. =/

[johnhughthom]

Rolling back isn't an option on Steam.

[Monk]

Rolling back isn't an option on Steam.

This unfortunately.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Turn off auto update for CK2

[johnhughthom]

Turn off auto update for CK2

Useless when your game is already updated, and doesn't work like that anyway. All that means is that the game won't update automatically, it'll still update next time you start the game. The only real way to ensure Steam doesn't update your game is to put it on offline mode before the new update comes out. Unless they've finally listened to the thousands of complaints about the feature and done something about it.

[Monk]

Useless when your game is already updated, and doesn't work like that anyway. All that means is that the game won't update automatically, it'll still update next time you start the game. The only real way to ensure Steam doesn't update your game is to put it on offline mode before the new update comes out. Unless they've finally listened to the thousands of complaints about the feature and done something about it.

Not to mention that if you tell the game to verify your cache, automatic updates get turned back on without you knowing or steam bothering to tell you. Steam does a lot of things right, but updates are not one of them.

At least not for games of this nature. For MP games the auto update is great

[naut]

I had just won independence from the Fatamid Sultanate and had designs on becoming King of Syria! =(

[Hooahguy]

UGH. WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO US???

I just finished 20+ years of civil war in the Kingdom of Scotland!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Chaotix]

Funny, and this patch was supposed to be "fully compatible with 1.06 save games".

My Rum Sultanate game is still going strong, so I actually believed them until I checked this thread.

[rickinator9]

UGH. WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO US???

I just finished 20+ years of civil war in the Kingdom of Scotland!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I'm pretty sure they are angry because they don't have their de jure counties. I can see some of the counts are de jure of the dukes are 'independent' under your rule. This is what makes them angry.

I myself discovered the benefits of having feudal elective succession if you don't have too many vassals. You can basically just pick the best heir out of your family.