Crusader Kings II

**Myth** · 06-06-2013, 11:32

Can you more experienced players post any tips for taking on a much larger faction than your own in a predominantly land-based war?

**Hooahguy** · 06-06-2013, 16:37

Not an experienced player, but really the only way I see that a small faction can take on a larger faction is the use of mercenaries.

EDIT: Also, is there any way to totally give up a province? Because right now my new ruler has a bunch of provinces in Ireland and two random ones in Bavaria, and they are really causing problems for me so Id really like to just give up those two provinces in mainland Europe and concentrate on Ireland.

**rvg** · 06-06-2013, 18:52

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

EDIT: Also, is there any way to totally give up a province? Because right now my new ruler has a bunch of provinces in Ireland and two random ones in Bavaria, and they are really causing problems for me so Id really like to just give up those two provinces in mainland Europe and concentrate on Ireland.

Install a count and grant him independence, no?

**Hooahguy** · 06-06-2013, 19:00

I dont think I have a count, but Im pretty sure I have a bunch of barons. I tried to give off those lands but the option was not there to give them away. Im not sure why. I might reload to before my last duke died and assassinate the heir so the other heir, with no random areas in Bavaria will be able to take over without as much drama.

**naut** · 06-06-2013, 20:29

Originally Posted by Myth

Can you more experienced players post any tips for taking on a much larger faction than your own in a predominantly land-based war?

The best option (unless you have money for mercs) is to hit and run before they doom stack. Also bait them into favourable defensive terrain (hills, over rivers, etc).

If you are fast enough you can often also bait and switch before they doom stack.

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

I dont think I have a count, but Im pretty sure I have a bunch of barons. I tried to give off those lands but the option was not there to give them away. Im not sure why. I might reload to before my last duke died and assassinate the heir so the other heir, with no random areas in Bavaria will be able to take over without as much drama.

Random barons? Transfer vassalage to the count they are located in.

**Chaotix** · 06-06-2013, 21:04

If you're at 100% decadence, you will sooner or later get hit with a Decadence Invasion.

Some county will revolt and come at you with roughly as many troops as you can muster in your entire realm. And they're all attrition free.

You'll also lose 50% decadence. But as soon as it jumps back up, you're susceptible to getting another one.

The way I handled decadence the last time I played Muslims was by keeping my dynasty very small. I was playing as Rum, so it eventually meant assassinating all of my Seljuk cousins. I also revoked or killed all of my vassal relatives and kept only my desmesne under Seljuk rule. Then give your designated heir a county and imprison the rest after he inherits. Rinse/repeat. With such a small dynasty you rarely gain any decadence, though it can be dangerous not knowing whether you'll have an heir.

**rickinator9** · 06-07-2013, 03:12

Hit their separate stacks when they are besieging provinces. They should split up.

**Myth** · 06-07-2013, 11:43

That's great and I'm certainly doing it, but the problem with the ERE and the war for Anatolia is that it's all landlocked so I can't really outspeed them wit clever navy use.

Also, how can I get the TO hochmeister as my vassal? Their ginormous stack is just sitting theren in an ERE province and they have apparently been kicked out of the baltic. I tried granting them a county and he was happy and all, but still did not accept being my vassal. However the KOJ still has the hospitalliers and templars as its vassal.