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    Attila "the Cube"? How does one get that title?
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    Oh yeah, I got that part, but Im just trying to figure out where "cube" came from. Were they geometrically inclined or something?
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    How can I fabricate a claim on an entire country? I know you can fabricate a claim on single provinces, but Im trying to take Brittany but I have to take it province by province which takes ages and Ive lost a number of good chancellors as they were fabricating claims.

    Before I thought I could press the claim of someone in my court, which I did before, but that didnt seem to work as when I won, the claimant took the throne of Brittany, but wasnt my vassal.

    On a similar note, whats a good way to force someone to be my vassal. Id rather just coerce the current king of Brittany to be my vassal than fight a war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    If claim fabrication is how you intend to expand, the most you can get at a time is a Duchy, and only then with a good Chancellor. The most expedient way to go about claim warfare like that is to fabricate multiple claims before going to war, as there should be a "Press all claims" cassus belli.

    As for getting vassals without conquering, I've only seen it work when you're an Empire and you're asking Duchies and Counties to join you. They have to be independent and at peace for you to have the option. You can ask Kings, but they always say no it seems.
    So I just checked, the ruler was a petty king, Ill try again when hes dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    So I just checked, the ruler was a petty king, Ill try again when hes dead.
    Petty kings are considered Dukes for the purposes of the game.

    Usually, to vassalize someone, you have to be at least two ranks higher than them (so King for a Count, Emperor for a Duke), share their religion, and additionally either share their culture or be their de jure liege. Sometimes if you are very powerful you can vassalize someone without being the de jure liege or same culture, if you directly border them.

    If you don't border them, you'll get the "distant land" penalty, and if you are not 2 ranks above you'll get the "small difference in rank" penalty - and either of these will usually prevent you from being able to vassalize.

    If you're having trouble trying to vassalize a Duke or a King, you can try claiming enough of his land to usurp his primary titles. Then when his realm fractures his former vassals will usually fold to you, and it's just a matter of doing a de jure war for the one or two counties left.
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    Holy hell, my wife is now the empress of the HRE. Not sure how that happened, I wasnt following HRE politics, but now I am absolutely astounded how that happened. Now my heir will be unifying the HRE and Britannia, I cannot believe this. So what would be the title of this massive empire? Can I name it, Id love to have the Holy European Empire, maybe eventually I can take over all of Europe!

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    Also that petty king of Brittany died and his heir accepted my offer of vassalization so that was easy.

    EDIT: there was a massive civil war in the HRE trying to oust my wife from the throne. For the good of the family I couldnt say no to helping defend her throne, so 45,000 English troops landed on the shores of Normandy, marched across France, and slowly beat back rebel forces. Initially the warscore was -65, and I was worried that my wife would surrender, but over the next few years we got it up to -20. Finally the rebels settled on a white peace, which I guess is better than a defeat, so thats good I think. I guess when I become HRE emperor I have this to look forward to.
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    Yeah, its going to be quite the experience managing an empire that large. Thinking about just handing off England and Scotland to my favorite vassals because managing the HRE and Britannia is going to be really tough.

    But yeah. I started as an Irish duke, then became king of Ireland , then to King of Scotland, then back to a small duke, then back to a king, then an emperor, its been quite the ride. The Dunkeld family began as Irish, became Scottish, then somehow was Welsh for a bit, and now its English. And I think that it will soon have some German in the mix soon.

    My suggestion is to work small. When the game started I concentrated everything on getting that one neighbor's province. Then the next, until I got Ireland under my contorl. Then I did the same for Scotland. Concentrated on getting the Isle of Man, then Argyll, and so forth. Keep working like that. Even if it takes a while to fabricate the claim, take it because its just the first stepping stone. Later on the big changes like from king to emperor will happen but its small steps before that.

    Also isnt there an ending date or something?
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