The Counter-Jihad goes full fascist - like we didn't know that before.

[HoreTore]

They've always denied the obvious...

"No no, we're not fascists, we're just critical of Islam! Stop pestering my with your PC!!!"

Well, Gates of Vienna made it official last week, by posting and stickying an open call for a fascist oligarchy. The only change from the past is that they have swapped "Strong manly virtue" with "high IQ".

The weak masses should be controlled by their stronger superiors. We should have less democracy and free speech, not more!! Of particular hilarity is the call for banning voodoo. Which kinda proves which side of the IQ-metre the author is on. I have a feeling he wont be doing many decisions in his ideal society....

Is this openness a sign of a new direction, though? Will the racist blogosphere turn into an openly fascist blogosphere? Or will they continue going into a fit whenever someone points out the blindingly obvious term on their movement?

[rory_20_uk]

Rather amusingly, you are lumping what is probably a rather diverse grouping of individuals into one amorphous mass - the Black Panthers alongside the KKK.

[HoreTore]

Rather amusingly, you are lumping what is probably a rather diverse grouping of individuals into one amorphous mass - the Black Panthers alongside the KKK.

I am lumping the contributors to a specific blog, Gates of Vienna, into one mass. That does not seem like that big a stretch to me. Given the lack of any critical comment whatsoever(the only criticism was a theological debate on the nature of Christianity which I found utterly boring), I am inclined to lump their readers into the mass as well.

Given that Gates of Vienna is a pretty big and forceful blog in the not-racist underground, I am asking the question of whether others will follow suit, dump the charade and openly declare themselves as fascists now. That remains to be seen.

[rory_20_uk]

Apologies. I did not realise that you were referring purely to a group who I take from the Blog's title to be pretty homogeneous. From as much of the blog post that I read there is a strong racial element, although interestingly it seems Jews and Christians are fine, it is broadly speaking everything and everyone else.

The comments are also pre-approved, so any that do not agree with the owner will be binned anyway - hence I much prefer this site where there is a reactive censorship for those that infringe the rules.

"Culture is ending, the polite, old white crowd that savors Bach at the Frauenkirche or Velasquez at the Prado having neither the courage nor the vigor to stop the barbarization of its former domains. The future is writ as the torture of the children of Grieg with the barbarians’ Dika Down Booboo! or their mega-decibel Adhan; the Booboo-Muslim-Morlock crowd multiplying and living off white Eloi’s taxes under Leviathan’s special care"

Strange man...

[HoreTore]

The comments are also pre-approved, so any that do not agree with the owner will be binned anyway - hence I much prefer this site where there is a reactive censorship for those that infringe the rules.

The comments are pre-approved, but to my knowledge that is only to prevent spam and such. I've posted a couple of times, and my comments have gotten through just fine....

Strange man...

Indeed.

[Fragony]

http://zorgvraag.info/wp-content/upl...2/oxazepam.jpg

^

[Fragony]

The funny thing about facism is that you can see it everwhere without recognising it

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

They've always denied the obvious...

"No no, we're not fascists, we're just critical of Islam! Stop pestering my with your PC!!!"

Well, Gates of Vienna made it official last week, by posting and stickying an open call for a fascist oligarchy. The only change from the past is that they have swapped "Strong manly virtue" with "high IQ".

The weak masses should be controlled by their stronger superiors. We should have less democracy and free speech, not more!! Of particular hilarity is the call for banning voodoo. Which kinda proves which side of the IQ-metre the author is on. I have a feeling he wont be doing many decisions in his ideal society....

Is this openness a sign of a new direction, though? Will the racist blogosphere turn into an openly fascist blogosphere? Or will they continue going into a fit whenever someone points out the blindingly obvious term on their movement?

Before you get too hearty in your demonisation, the bolded also perfectly describes the EU! All you have to do is replace "stronger" with "more enlightened" and it is a perfect fit for what is being said by Germany, and Germans, about Southern Europe - and that also has a racial element too it.

Reactionary racial steryotyping is the result of straightened economic situations, which is why we now see it on both right and left. It's a result of the In Group attacking the Out Group.

[Kralizec]

and it is a perfect fit for what is being said by Germany, and Germans, about Southern Europe - and that also has a racial element too it.

What?

[Lemur]

the Booboo-Muslim-Morlock crowd multiplying and living off white Eloi’s taxes under Leviathan’s special care

As fond as I am of Morlock/Eloi references, you can't go mixing in Leviathan when you're in the middle of a Time Machine riff. No mixing H. G. Wells and Thomas Hobbes; that's just wrong.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

What?

Well, those Greeks deserve everything they get, right? They're corrupt, and they elect corrupt politicians, so maybe they're stupid too? If only they could practice German fiscal dicipline, but we don't trust them to do that, so we'll grind them down as low as possible before giving them a loan with punitive interest rates.

Give me a break.

What is happening in the Eurozone is being cast as Northern Dicipline vs Southern immorality (because debt is immoral). It's a Germanic Protestant narrative that ignores the basic structural failure of the Euro, thank God the Left-leaning press is waking up over here, at least.

[Kralizec]

Nice attempt at changing the subject, this is not Furunculus' euro thread. I find your insinuation that there are racist sentiments in the way Germany and others are treating Greece incredibly insulting, even more so because it's so subtle.

[Tellos Athenaios]

The big difference being, however, that the Protestant morality play has nothing whatsoever to do with racism and everything with Germany and others refusing point blank to cover the bill, again, while at the same time France and Germany are insisting that Greece must remain part of the euro. These are mutually exclusive unless the Greeks suddenly pay up after all.

Still, the key here is that it really is a Greek option to call it quits but so far their politicians haven't had the guts to do that either. They've professed as have the Germans/French that a break from the euro is impossible, and hence the Greeks continue to pay their bills through convoluted “bail out” schemes. The talk about it being impossible to do is, just that, talk: neither France/Germany nor Greece officially wants Greece to exit the euro, they're just trying to hang on to it for as long as possible. If either party wanted that, the hands would've been forced and the matter concluded months ago.

[spankythehippo]

Whoa, double post.

Well, those Greeks deserve everything they get, right? They're corrupt, and they elect corrupt politicians, so maybe they're stupid too?

Blaming an entire demographic for the actions of corrupt politicians? Now you're just attacking a straw man. Of course, my words mean nothing, since I don't live in EU.

But I find this informal fallacy rather distasteful.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Whoa, double post.



Blaming an entire demographic for the actions of corrupt politicians? Now you're just attacking a straw man. Of course, my words mean nothing, since I don't live in EU.

But I find this informal fallacy rather distasteful.

I find the penury the Greek people are being driven into more than distasteful, and the restrictions being placed upon them are EXPLICITELY stated to be to make sure they keep up their end of the deal.

As I said - if its about the politicians, get rid of them, don't crash the whole ******** economy, it's pointless.

Also take a look at this:

No one forced anyone into anything. We're dealing with countries here, who are not supposed to walk into scams.

When I was 18 I was offered a Platinum credit card with a limit of £25k. I had no job. I chose not to take it. Not only did Greece decide to take something that was worse than this, but also lied on the form to become a member.

Rory, I think if we're honest, this is much more like every time you wanted something your girlfriend gave it to you, and she was using her dad's credit card.