Sean Penn is a crock [Falklands Debate]

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Took you a while to spin up IA. Fen Foggle has already suggested he be fed to Crodiles.

Alos, the Gruniad let him write this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ed?INTCMP=SRCH

He seems to miss a couple of salient points, the least of which is that Dauntless has gone to replace an older Frigate. It has to be a Daring-class ship there now because we need to be able to credibly protect Mount Pleasant from bombing because we have no carriers operational.

[InsaneApache]

Took you a while to spin up IA. Fen Foggle has already suggested he be fed to Crodiles.

Alos, the Gruniad let him write this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ed?INTCMP=SRCH

He seems to miss a couple of salient points, the least of which is that Dauntless has gone to replace an older Frigate. It has to be a Daring-class ship there now because we need to be able to credibly protect Mount Pleasant from bombing because we have no carriers operational.

Well the more misguided, misinformed rubbish he spouted I thought, "hang on, this blokes a cock".

So I thought I'd post my innermost thoughts here.

Just saying like. :o)

[Beskar]

I know the user made a typing mistake, but try to be careful with those titles, I had to edit every single reply so far!

[rvg]

I know the user made a typing mistake, but try to be careful with those titles, I had to edit every single reply so far!

There was no mistake. That's exactly what Sean Penn is.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Reminds me of that movie where he gives money to the Black Panthers and suggests renaming them the Zebra's. lol.

Didn't know he had those views in RL.

I don't get why the liberal left is siding with Argentina over this, the country which had a military junta try to overrule a peoples right to self-determination.

[Furunculus]

guy is an oxygen thief.

there is perfectly good air being wasted that could have provided valuable succor to such worthy creatures as hugo chavez.

it is a disgrace!

[Fisherking]

guy is an oxygen thief.

there is perfectly good air being wasted that could have provided valuable succor to such worthy creatures as hugo chavez.

it is a disgrace!

Were you reading my mind?

He has always been a poster boy for legalizing postpartum abortion.

[lars573]

Reminds me of that movie where he gives money to the Black Panthers and suggests renaming them the Zebra's. lol.

Didn't know he had those views in RL.

I don't get why the liberal left is siding with Argentina over this, the country which had a military junta try to overrule a peoples right to self-determination.

This is the same guy who went to Iraq in 2002 and was quite shocked to find it was a Stalinist dictatorship.

[InsaneApache]

No!

Surely not.

Hypocracy and.....

[Hosakawa Tito]

The title mistake was pure karma . Last I saw, the male chicken was running a refugee camp in Haiti. Now that he's fixed that place, and is probably getting bored, it's on to the next crusade.
If the people of the Falklands wish to remain part of the UK, then Argentina and the male chicken should stuff it.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The title mistake was pure karma . Last I saw, the male chicken was running a refugee camp in Haiti. Now that he's fixed that place, and is probably getting bored, it's on to the next crusade.
If the people of the Falklands wish to remain part of the UK, then Argentina and the male chicken should stuff it.

Part of the problem, one suspects, is that Obama begs to differ. All that would be needed to end this is for the US to throw its weight behind the right of the Falklanders to self-determination, but it won't.

[Ja'chyra]

The last I heard we weren't a state yet, so Abomber can think what he likes

[gaelic cowboy]

Part of the problem, one suspects, is that Obama begs to differ. All that would be needed to end this is for the US to throw its weight behind the right of the Falklanders to self-determination, but it won't.

The US never intervenes were it's own national interest contradicts British historical attachments.

Last time out the US was at best cool about the idea of UK invading, now it's even more in the US interest to court Argentina.
The strategic thing and most likey thing ANY current or potential US president will do is absolutely nothing.



US is thinking long term on this one with regard to the millitary, economic and naval situation in the South Atlantic.
The UK on the other hand may need may need to come to a monetary accomadation or politically risk a lot for little return.(there doesnt need to be a war for this to hurt Britain in the future)

[Beskar]

Falklands are not part of the United Kingdom, they come under "Dependent Territory" where they chose to depend on Britain opposed to alternatives. Falklanders requested not to be part of Argentina and the British Government for reasons refuse to allow them to be part of Britain. So they are sort of a random stretch of land who are protected by Britain.

[PanzerJaeger]

Dead Man Walking... Mystic River... Milk... the guy is a very talented actor and I give him credit for sticking around in Haiti long after the media, Hollywood, and the world lost interest. When you travel around the third world, it is very easy to fall into an anti-Western/colonialist mindset and the kind of black and white world view that dictates that what isn't Western must therefore be good. For example, Chavez seems like a complete crock () until one reads up on things such as Operation Condor, and then his excesses seem a bit more justified. He should stick to perfecting his craft and raising awareness for charitable causes.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Dead Man Walking... Mystic River... Milk... the guy is a very talented actor and I give him credit for sticking around in Haiti long after the media, Hollywood, and the world lost interest. When you travel around the third world, it is very easy to fall into an anti-Western/colonialist mindset and the kind of black and white world view that dictates that what isn't Western must therefore be good. For example, Chavez seems like a complete crock () until one reads up on things such as Operation Condor, and then his excesses seem a bit more justified. He should stick to perfecting his craft and raising awareness for charitable causes.

God **** this is the most reasonable post in here.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Falklands are not part of the United Kingdom, they come under "Dependent Territory" where they chose to depend on Britain opposed to alternatives. Falklanders requested not to be part of Argentina and the British Government for reasons refuse to allow them to be part of Britain. So they are sort of a random stretch of land who are protected by Britain.

I thought the British Nationality Act 1983 provided them with British citizenship?

[Beskar]

I thought it was the British Dependency Citizenship they got, unless their family was from Britain itself?