Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
You're missing the ~90% who don't think like that but will get very upset anway.

Thus far, nobody has responded to my example. From this I conclude that our American friends cannot concieve of the US being an occupied Third World country, which speaks volumes in the current situation.
You're going off topic, but I'll bite.

They're occupied because they got themselves in that position to begin with. Read Hosa's posts. These people in general were actively supportive at worst, ambivalant at best, to their theocratic, radical government, the Taliban. This government aided, housed, abetted terrorists who attacked US citizens and targets that were all non-military in nature. Their government actively refused to extradite or assist in capture with the known and self-admitted perpetrators of these crimes, which is the equivalent to endorsing those activities. The backwater tribal savages actively assisted these same people, gave them intel and knowledge, hid them, fed them, etc. As Hosa stated, they reaped the whirlwind. I'm assuming you can now connect the dots and figure out why the US would never, ever be in this type of situation.

They've been "occupied" now for years. Anyone who believes that the US forces there haven't actively tried to make that area a better place for everyone are self deceived fools. Ignoring the military's propaganda and the media, I've a number of friends who've been deployed over there about what they do and how they try to take positive action. Want another account since you all will discount this? Read Goofball's posts. The average US soldier is not a bloodthirsty baby-murdering psychopath, they're doing their jobs and genuinely want to see an improvement in the quality of life over there. They aren't shooting civilians for sport, they're handing out shoes and food, teaching them how to make their living conditions better, modern medicine techniques and methods.

Guess what, it's not really working at all. Why? Because it's so damn corrupt, and most all of the backwater savages living in their tents are fine with that and have no desire for a status quo change. Some people here have claimed it's an education issue, and worse that it's an excuse for them acting like they do. I call total BS. These people aren't living in a vacuum, they've had contact with the rest of the world since the first ancient empires thousands of years ago. Communication and exposure aren't the issues at all, all of those means are there and available and have been since time immemorial.

As Hosa said. If the Taliban is what they want back, let them have it. If they try and pull more BS or provide support to active US enemies, then they'll reap the whirlwind again. Or here's another thought. We, being the US, went in to get the bad guys, and tried to make it a better place. Didn't really work at all. Think you can do a better job? Great, get your government to send in some people and material to assist, and see how far ya'll get. But get off your high horses and stop whining about how the US didn't do such and such or should have done such and such, because it's been done and tried. We've done what we came for, we tried to help, and it didn't work.