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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    By not accepting Rush's apology, Ms. Fluke is seeking to prolong the bleeding and has transformed herself from a victim into a full-fledged political shill/women's rights icon.
    For what it's worth his apology was not an apology. "I chose two wrong words but I was right" doesn't begin to correct the evil of personally attacking a woman for three straight days, saying that she must be having so much sex it's a wonder she can walk. I can go pull quotes if you like, but some of them are not reprintable under Org rules. What the Rusbo offered was the thinnest possible level of self-justification and buttock-covering after he began to lose sponsors. I'm not going to speculate on Fluke's motives, 'cause I don't know her and have not read much about her, but calling her names for not accepting Rush's less-than-halfhearted apology is silly. If a national figure trashed you for three straight days and offered that sort of weaksauce, I doubt you would accept it either.

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    Subsidized contraception may be a great thing and supported by many women's groups, but it goes beyond the Obamacare mandate and is emblematic of a government that is asleep at the fiscal wheel. [...] This stuff can get very expensive beyond the pill.
    This controversy has been specifically about the pill. And life doesn't really get expensive until you get into fertility therapy, which can go into the tens of thousands very quickly. Most insurance does not cover more than a fraction of that sort of thing; ask any couple that's trying (and failing) to conceive.

    Again, I think basic reproductive health, such as the pill, falls well within the parameters of fundamental healthcare for women.

    Moreover, I like the rate of abortion going down. I like teen pregnancy going down. I'm not terribly sympathetic to arguments—however well-intentioned—that would lead us down the path to increasing both of those numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    It's almost not even worth mentioning the rank hypocrisy in the Left's outrage as the damage has already been done.
    I think Frum answered that one pretty well.
    Last edited by Lemur; 03-06-2012 at 04:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    For what it's worth his apology was not an apology. "I chose two wrong words but I was right" doesn't begin to correct the evil of personally attacking a woman for three straight days, saying that she must be having so much sex it's a wonder she can walk. I can go pull quotes if you like, but some of them are not reprintable under Org rules. What the Rusbo offered was the thinnest possible level of self-justification and buttock-covering after he began to lose sponsors. I'm not going to speculate on Fluke's motives, 'cause I don't know her and have not read much about her, but calling her names for not accepting Rush's less-than-halfhearted apology is silly. If a national figure trashed you for three straight days and offered that sort of weaksauce, I doubt you would accept it either.
    Rush wrote: "My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choice.” Ms. Fluke not only did not accept the apology, which is certainly justifiable, but is also making the rounds on TV to ensure everyone else knows that she is not accepting the apology - i.e., making hay. That's fine - Rush reaps what he sows, but it also confirms my suspicion that she was a Democratic shill from the start brought in to bolster Pelosi's hearing. The woman currently being portrayed as an innocent college student with the temerity to testify before congress only to be savaged by Rush is actually a 30 year old feminist activist with a long history of political advocacy. This has been a political circus from the start, and both sides are trying to outdo the other in righteous indignation and feigned outrage.

    This controversy has been specifically about the pill.
    I was under the impression that it was still unclear as to which contraceptive methods and procedures will be covered. We could even be responsible for voluntary tubal ligation, and all the associated hospital costs. Hopefully you have not had to spend any time in a hospital recently, but it is just about the most expensive hotel you can find in most towns.


    Again, I think basic reproductive health, such as the pill, falls well within the parameters of fundamental healthcare for women.
    Why? (Assuming we are excluding those that use it for medicinal purposes.)

    Moreover, I like the rate of abortion going down. I like teen pregnancy going down. I'm not terribly sympathetic to arguments—however well-intentioned—that would lead us down the path to increasing both of those numbers.
    This is a bit of a red herring. At-risk groups can be specifically targetted without subsidizing suburban housewives' vaginal rings.

    I think Frum answered that one pretty well.
    He did not. He ignored most of the examples cited in the article I linked to. The Left is clearly pushing for Limbaugh's termination while it remained largely silent during similar instances when the perpetrator was a liberal icon. As I said before, this has transformed from the genuine fallout over the stupid remarks of a radio talk show host to the political optics of feigned outrage. The Democrats will attempt to ride the women's rights wave as far as it will take them just as the GOP tried to do the same on the religious rights wave. This seems more like politics as usual rather than Frumm's 'new kind of low'. I don't think 'slut' is any worse than 'mashed up bag of meat with lipstick'.
    Last edited by PanzerJaeger; 03-06-2012 at 06:51.

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