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    Hello there,
    im seeking advice on using elephants. I already know how to use them very well, but i was wondering how they go against other elephants? its it the first person to charge wins? I usually use javelins to rout elephants but i was wondering if i could use my katapract elephants against Carthaginian forest elephants and not take too many caualties. im hesitant to try this because my army is a long way away from the recruitment zone

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    Default Re: Elephant VS Elephant battles

    Quote Originally Posted by seleucid empire View Post
    Hello there,
    im seeking advice on using elephants. I already know how to use them very well, but i was wondering how they go against other elephants? its it the first person to charge wins? I usually use javelins to rout elephants but i was wondering if i could use my katapract elephants against Carthaginian forest elephants and not take too many caualties. im hesitant to try this because my army is a long way away from the recruitment zone
    Theoretically, Cataphract Elephants should win against all other types (they have javelins, more armour, and superior morale). So far, I've only used other elephants in pachyderm fights though. Anyway, the best unit for such a job would be some kind of mounted skirmisher, in your case Hetairoi Aspidophoroi. Or Dahae/Arachosian skirmishers - they have more ammo.




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    pachiderm cabs derby ? all i have to say is that size matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Theoretically, Cataphract Elephants should win against all other types (they have javelins, more armour, and superior morale). So far, I've only used other elephants in pachyderm fights though. Anyway, the best unit for such a job would be some kind of mounted skirmisher, in your case Hetairoi Aspidophoroi. Or Dahae/Arachosian skirmishers - they have more ammo.
    african bush elephants are bigger than the indian ones arent they? would they just crush mine? i still havent tried it yet and i only have one unit of skirmisher cav which isnt doing all that much since carthage brings 3 units of these beast and i only have one

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    Default Re: Elephant VS Elephant battles

    Quote Originally Posted by seleucid empire View Post
    african bush elephants are bigger than the indian ones arent they? would they just crush mine? i still havent tried it yet and i only have one unit of skirmisher cav which isnt doing all that much since carthage brings 3 units of these beast and i only have one
    Strictly speaking, they are bigger, however IIRC the regular Indian elephants have similar attack and defence (and HP). As I said, cataphract elephants should beat all other elephant types thanks to armour, discipline and javelins.
    Bush Elephants are the easiest to rout (they have the lowest morale value of all recruitable units in EB), so you should try archers with flaming arrows too. If you have too few skirmishers in your field army, you could hire one or two units of mercenary Peltasts or skirmisher cavalry just to be on the safe side. Even regular Akontistai are super effective against elephants (the problem is that they're almost useless once their missiles are spent).
    Last edited by athanaric; 03-15-2012 at 12:34.




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    Do elephants scare elephants?
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    Default Re: Elephant VS Elephant battles

    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Do elephants scare elephants?
    IIRC yes. I know for a fact that Gaesatae scare each other.




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