Hello everybody :) it's a long time since i've been there for the last time.

Was wondering: is it useful to turn your enemies into vassals ?

I remember having completely destroyed Carthago as the Scipii. Their past glory survived only in a rump state in Lepcis Magna.
Not willing to engage Egypt yet, I invaded them with full stacks of high end units, slaughtered all their armies and their generals, besieged their capital for some rounds, then retreated and sent an emissary to offer them to be my vassals. Not only they refused the first time, but when I came the second time with gold they just asked me to give them back 5 regions they used to control, including Carthago, and 22k gold, which was obviously unacceptable for me.

So here's my question: do you occur to turn easily a rival into a vassal ? Is it worth the shot ? (rather than destroying their faction). How much control do you have over them ?

Thanks everybody,

Cheers,

Llywelyn