Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
[QUOTE=rvg;2053431081I'm not sure I understand your question.[/QUOTE]
What do you want from them, to suddenly leave everything to you? Trust your courts? You are a foreign invader, you expect grattitude because you mowed their lawn but it's still your boot that really affects them more directly
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
I don't really care what the average Nasratullah wants. Our government has an agreement with their government on how to handle these cases. Thus, the case will be handled according to the agreement. Public outcry over this while understandable is completely irrelevant.Originally Posted by Fragony
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Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
An agreement with a now infamous puppet regime and corrupt president - not an agreement with the Afghan people, the various tribes, etc...
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
That is how government has to operate cynwulf. If most of the Southern and Western states say that Obama is a corrupt president and that he is no longer representing the Country, does that mean they have the right to not abide by US treaties and to make their own laws? If you are going to get the benefits of being in a country and under a government, you have to follow the rules. In any county and under government you will have a significant body of people are unhappy with the current regime and think it dictatorial (you did with Bush, you do with Obama, you did with Clinton, etc, etc, etc). That does not mean that the people in that country don't have to obey their country's laws.
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Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
Vuk there is a huge difference - unlike Karzai, Obama was not installed into office by an occupying force.
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
Like that Breivik guy.A schizoid break would do it though.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
Did I say that?
The "infamous puppet regime" is what the U.N. recognizes as a legitimate afghan government. They'll do.
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"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
I see people talking about a signed agreement regarding the deployment of troops, etc... such an agreement would only be relevant if the US and it's allies were invited in, in the first place...
Or is this a debate where we just pretend the Karzai regime is legit and just take it from there...?
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
Says who?
The U.N. pretends he's legit. That makes anything he signs legit. That's good enough for me. Public opinion on this is inconsequential.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
I see... so if he's good enough for you and the UN, that's fine, the Afghan people don't even factor... that pretty much says it all.
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
Yes. Welcome to the real world.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
No thanks I'm happier in "fantasy land"...
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
That would be true if said government actually had the authority to back up and enforce its agreements internally. It hasn't, so your argument is, as they say, invalid.
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Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
What kinda bothers me, this guy murdered a lot of people, just shot them including a 2 year old. Why would you do such a thing, and most of all why is American law so important here. It was a a two year old that got killed, she knows nothing about law. Why such trust in it, it can be so ugly, rip kiddie
Re: First the Koran Burnings, Now This; I Think We're Donesies in the 'Stan
Yes, what happened was horrible, but that's not a reason to feed the guy to the lynch mob. Let the tribunal do its thing, the guy will get his date with the firing squad and we'll call it a day.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
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