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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    The U.N. pretends he's legit. That makes anything he signs legit. That's good enough for me. Public opinion on this is inconsequential.
    I see... so if he's good enough for you and the UN, that's fine, the Afghan people don't even factor... that pretty much says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynwulf View Post
    I see... so if he's good enough for you and the UN, that's fine, the Afghan people don't even factor... that pretty much says it all.
    Yes. Welcome to the real world.
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    Yes. Welcome to the real world.
    No thanks I'm happier in "fantasy land"...

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    Yes. Welcome to the real world.
    That would be true if said government actually had the authority to back up and enforce its agreements internally. It hasn't, so your argument is, as they say, invalid.
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    That would be true if said government actually had the authority to back up and enforce its agreements internally. It hasn't, so your argument is, as they say, invalid.
    Says who?
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    Says who?
    Well last I looked, shooting at American soldiers whilst in your official capacity of Afghan cop in response to Koran burnings wasn't exactly part of stated mandate by the Karzai government. Could be wrong, though.
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    Occording to NPR, the locals believe that there were many American soldiers involved.
    Listen to the Morning Edition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    Well last I looked, shooting at American soldiers whilst in your official capacity of Afghan cop in response to Koran burnings wasn't exactly part of stated mandate by the Karzai government. Could be wrong, though.
    Just like I'm sure that this guy who offed 16 people got a direct order from Washington to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka_Khan View Post
    Occording to NPR, the locals believe that there were many American soldiers involved.
    Listen to the Morning Edition.
    That's even more of a reason to ignore what they "believe" or "think".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Just like I'm sure that this guy who offed 16 people got a direct order from Washington to do so.
    Yeah, well haven't seen them actually bothering to try and prosecute the Afghan cops. I'm not Mitt Romney, but I think this is a safe bet: the USA does have a government which is able to enforce its laws on its own even when they're widely unpopular, and Afghanistan doesn't. So if you make an agreement with a government that doesn't actually have the means to reign in the populace then that agreement isn't worth very much.

    I haven't seen the American soldiers walk around freely in Afghan villages or cities, safe in the knowledge that the Afghan government runs a functioning law and order department. By contrast, as I recall, the Afghan government relies on the USA to be its enforcer.
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