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    Default Civilization: The West and the Rest

    Is anyone else reading this?
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    I watched the docus he did

    "The Ascent of Money"

    Civilisation is the West History

    And the China one called "China Triumph and Turmoil"

    He is quite good never read the book though.
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    i watched the TV documentaries too, very good.

    his book on empire was likewise good, and quite enjoying his one on counterfactuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    i watched the TV documentaries too, very good.

    his book on empire was likewise good, and quite enjoying his one on counterfactuals.
    Did you see the China one lately I like the term he made "Maostalgia"
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    i think i did, missed that.
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    Haven't read his work but after seeing the documentaries he made I can fully agree with Krugman's conclusion that Ferguson is a poseur who hasn't bothered to understand the basics, relying on snide comments and surface cleverness to convey the impression of wisdom. It's all style, no comprehension of substance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Haven't read his work but after seeing the documentaries he made I can fully agree with Krugman's conclusion that Ferguson is a poseur who hasn't bothered to understand the basics, relying on snide comments and surface cleverness to convey the impression of wisdom. It's all style, no comprehension of substance
    Dont we all
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    Default Re: Civilization: The West and the Rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Haven't read his work but after seeing the documentaries he made I can fully agree with Krugman's conclusion that Ferguson is a poseur who hasn't bothered to understand the basics, relying on snide comments and surface cleverness to convey the impression of wisdom. It's all style, no comprehension of substance
    This also describes 99% of the Backroom.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    All of us are suspect.

    No exceptions.
    Vitiate Man.

    History repeats the old conceits
    The glib replies, the same defeats


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    Read it.

    Largely a summary of stuff you find in greater detail elsewhere; unfortunately nothing that struck me as original or a "new view". It is nice to have it all in one place to save one from running around looking for "that book".

    On a similar theme, but one I found a more interesting read: The Post American World Release 2.0: Fareed Zakaria; 2008,2011.
    Not dead yet, but certainly adjusting to a new world of rising powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr View Post
    This also describes 99% of the Backroom.
    Only exception was Tribesman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr View Post
    This also describes 99% of the Backroom.
    Right, and that's why I tell you guys to leave the thinking to me.





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