New patch?

[Harleyquin12]

Pre-patch Nanbans made Christianity a huge draw for Western Clans, although they're still powerful and save a lot on naval upkeep post-patch it seems a little unrealistic that ships can be struck 4-5 times with direct cannonballs and NOT sink. One pirate raid I repelled using Nanban ships saw one of the trade ships lose its main mast, get hit by half a dozen cannonballs, lose over half of its crew and still be one of the last ships to rout!

I suspect the programmers changed the way cannonballs work in Shogun 2 because of the big March patch accomodating the new expansion, but they did not document it.

[Jarmam]

So wait... Nanban Trade Ships aren't Battlecruisers with trade capabilities anymore?

Now that would change the way I play a lot of clans - can't say I'm sorry to hear this.

[Harleyquin12]

Another bug I've noticed with the new patch:

Prior to March I could not unlock a single battle-related achievement on Steam, now with the patch I unlock the common ones like Unnecessary Force as well the multiplayer-only Master of the Waves even though I don't play multiplayer at all...

[faker01]

Since the patch it is harder to beat the oda with the tokugawa. At least my tactic doesn't work anymore. So I have to bribe one stack and try to beat the other Stack in an very unfair fight. (I only played on legendary)

[Harleyquin12]

Continuing my Mori Hard campaign, I think I've pinpointed the exact problems I'm facing which were not an issue prior to the March patch:

1. All-samurai army led by any general against Christian rebels (Field/siege battle, attack/defence) will not have a pre-battle speech prior to army deployment, in contrast my Daimyo leading a samurai-majority army with 2 yari ashigaru, 2 bow ashigaru and 2 wako raiders does play a pre-battle speech when sieging a Shimazu castle.
2. Mori Nanban ship cannons can sink enemy ships PROVIDED said ships had red hull strength and almost no crew remaining prior to the battle. The cannons have no way of sinking enemy ships if the starting opponent's ships were undamaged at the start of the battle. I'm not sure if the presence of the Nihon Maru and its Inspire Fleet ability made the difference for the cannons.

If anything in this forum is kind enough to verify whether or not they're experiencing the same issues, please reply. Also, how do I contact Creative Assembly regarding the above issues in the hopes of getting them fixed in whatever patch is coming up in the pipeline?

[frogbeastegg]

Nanbans are nerfed that heavily? I'm a sad froggy - they were the only reason I could see to convert to Christianity! They were overpowered, but considering the time, expense and future hassle involved in converting, the reward needs to be suitably alluring.

I can't remember seeing any general's speeches since I installed FotS. I haven't tried a S2/RotS campaign yet, so I can't say whether it's a general lack or something specific to my campaign.

Prior to March I could not unlock a single battle-related achievement on Steam, now with the patch I unlock the common ones like Unnecessary Force as well the multiplayer-only Master of the Waves even though I don't play multiplayer at all...

That one has been around for a long time. I unlocked it in June, if I remember correctly I 'earned' it during a castle siege. I have never played a single MP game.

I've been given another MP achievement: my 'requiem of the dead' has been exchanged for 'skilled warrior'. The unlock date remains the same, meaning that I supposedly unlocked the achievement 4 months before it existed! No idea if I will be able to unlock requiem a second time.

1. The order for Encyclopaedia entries for buildings in Shogun 2 is messed up, in particular the final tier upgrades for various specialty buildings (e.g. Ninja fortress is lasted after Burakumin Village, not the Smuggling Network).

The in-game encyclopaedia, or the one you can access outside of the game via the steam menu?

Also, how do I contact Creative Assembly regarding the above issues in the hopes of getting them fixed in whatever patch is coming up in the pipeline?

There are bug threads on the official forums, totalwar.com. CA do read them, although they frequently do not reply. There's a few CA staff who read threads here too. I think that there is a way to submit bug reports via Sega's technical support pages.

[Harleyquin12]

Nanbans are nerfed that heavily? I'm a sad froggy - they were the only reason I could see to convert to Christianity! They were overpowered, but considering the time, expense and future hassle involved in converting, the reward needs to be suitably alluring.

I can't remember seeing any general's speeches since I installed FotS. I haven't tried a S2/RotS campaign yet, so I can't say whether it's a general lack or something specific to my campaign.


That one has been around for a long time. I unlocked it in June, if I remember correctly I 'earned' it during a castle siege. I have never played a single MP game.

I've been given another MP achievement: my 'requiem of the dead' has been exchanged for 'skilled warrior'. The unlock date remains the same, meaning that I supposedly unlocked the achievement 4 months before it existed! No idea if I will be able to unlock requiem a second time.


The in-game encyclopaedia, or the one you can access outside of the game via the steam menu?


There are bug threads on the official forums, totalwar.com. CA do read them, although they frequently do not reply. There's a few CA staff who read threads here too. I think that there is a way to submit bug reports via Sega's technical support pages.

@Nanbans: In your guide, you said skilled players could sink fleets with a single ship. That is no longer the case, now you need 3 Nanbans against a typical AI fleet in naval battles for certain victory.
It's confirmed that FotS has no general pre-battle speeches, my beef is that my game is somewhat glitched since some battles in particular(?) don't give a speech while others do.

@Achievements: Prior to the patch, I wasn't getting achievements I should have earned by right. Now it's the other way round, coupled with your case it appears adding in the FotS achievements has once again screwed up the Achievements system.

@Encyclopaedia: I would think it doesn't matter which way the encyclopaedia is accessed, but I can confirm the browser-based encyclopaedia has the messed-up order.

@Bug reporting: I've signed up on the official forums and posted a thread regarding the speeches on the technical support side, as of yet I've not seen any replies.