Obama and Europe - two of the silliest things ever

[Vuk]

So Obama was supposed to be the President who made everyone in the world love us, who was super intelligent, who was charismatic, and would usher in a new age of diplomacy, where all of our longtime alliances would be strengthened, and we would make new ones elsewhere.
When I see videos like this one, I cannot help but to laugh at that idea:


This guy is frankly embarrassing.
Pictures of world leaders laughing at his pathetic antics don't help either.



What must the world think of a country that elects that as President? We must be the laughing stock for voting that guy into office! A Harvard educated man who is not creative or intelligent enough to think of more than two different speeches to deliver to all our allies, a middle-aged married man who cannot take his eyes off of some 16 year old's butt, a great orator who can stutter more in one speech than Dubya and Clinton put together in their entire lives, and the bleeding genius who believes that there are 57 states in the US! If it wasn't so sad, it may be funny (say for instance if this France, or some other Third-World country's President).

So Euro-weiners, what do you think of our beloved President now? How do you think he views Europe?

[HoreTore]

A Negro with a higher education than me? Quick, make fun of his intelligence!!! Obviously a result of affirmative action laws!!!

As for my opinion on Obama, it remains the same as when he was elected; he is the lesser evil. I can never support a conservative like Obama, yet he is a hell of a lot better than the alternative(Palin).

[Husar]

I love it, that was a really funny video and the pictures are great!

I'm so happy that this is all people have to worry about regarding Obama, could be worse like him starting wars or something.

[Vuk]

No seriously? Who cares? Outside of the minds of the elderly the cold war is over and so is any reason to pay terribly much attention to either USA or Russia. China has better food, anyway.

Come off it.

I love it, that was a really funny video and the pictures are great!

I'm so happy that this is all people have to worry about regarding Obama, could be worse like him starting wars or something.

Who said there were not more important things to think about? That does not make this less important though. Seriously Husar, you know that if that was Dubya, you and all the other Euros would be jumping all over him.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Come off it.

No really, we're sort of used to the fact that the US president is struggling to find words to "praise" the muppet-of-the-day that we send to the White House whilst the prez is secretly trying to remember a map with the country on it and not altogether sure that the country does in fact exist.

US presidents not having a clue, stumbling over their lines? Happens all the time. I recall Dubya didn't even know who our former Prime Minister was when he went to visit. So could be worse.

As for him looking, well uhm Sarko and Mr. Bunga-Bunga... Fine company... or so I hear.

[CBR]

This was the alternative...

[Sarmatian]

Forget Obama, look at Sarko. While Obama has that "I appreciate female beauty" look, Sarko is all out with his "I wanna a piece of that now"...In Europe, you get points for being a red-blooded male.

Contrary to those two, Berlusconi and Medvedev look asleep and get no points. Ok, granted, Berlusconi probably thinks "Were two of her younger sisters at my manor last Saturday?" but Medvedev's lines of thoughts probably include "What would Vladimir do in this situation?".

[HoreTore]

Sarmatian wins the Backroom!!

[Tellos Athenaios]

@Vuk: nothing we didn't think about y'all before. ;)
You're welcome,

-Smug self-satisfied Euro-dept.

/sarcasm

No seriously? Who cares? Outside of the minds of the elderly the cold war is over and so is any reason to pay terribly much attention to either USA or Russia. China has better food, anyway.

[Vuk]

A man who looks at a pretty woman's bum while president!? Shocker. Kind of par for the course as a Democrat to love the ladies.

I've got problems with Obama, but this is a little ad hominem.

It is one thing if you are some redneck who doesn't care what people think about you, but it is different when you are the President of the United States. First of all, anyone with a professional job in a professional environment should be quite grown-up enough to not be staring at women's nether-regions. You are supposed to get past that in your early teen years. As President, he represents an entire Country, and as such, should be on his best behavior. Also, one of the 'women', was an underage girl.

[Vuk]

A Negro with a higher education than me? Quick, make fun of his intelligence!!! Obviously a result of affirmative action laws!!!

As for my opinion on Obama, it remains the same as when he was elected; he is the lesser evil. I can never support a conservative like Obama, yet he is a hell of a lot better than the alternative(Palin).

Of course HoreTore, Liberal Guide To Avoiding Questions and Discrediting Your Opponents, Chapter 1: "Call them racist".
So when I was disgusted with Clinton, that was just because of his views and my opinion of his character and intelligence, but when I am disgusted with Obama, it is, of course, because of his race. You guys are sooo unoriginal. Seriously, you need to mix it up once in a while.
And since when is Obama a 'Negro', as you say. He is more 'white' than he is 'black', if you are going to judge his race by his skin colour. In fact, when he has a tan, my younger brother is darker than Obama. Hermann Cain was black, Obama creamy at best. I guess creamy doesn't fit into your nice, neat, black and white European racial classification though. Or do you simply believe in the one-drop rule?

[Peasant Phill]

... (say for instance if this France, or some other Third-World country's President).

So Euro-weiners, what do you think of our beloved President now? How do you think he views Europe?

I find it hilarious that you say that France is a Third-World country.

Granted Obama isn't living up to the steep expectations but this is reality.

[Fragony]

Granted Obama isn't living up to the steep expectations but this is reality.

Reality is also that these high-expectations were really there, it was pathetic how what Vuk calls euroweenies acted as if the Messias had returned. Not Vuk's fault they now look like the idiots they really are. A little bit of disrespect for Europe we should be able to just deal with no, as if us euroweenies are all nuance when it comes to the US

[Goofball]

So Obama was supposed to be the President who made everyone in the world love us, who was super intelligent, who was charismatic, and would usher in a new age of diplomacy, where all of our longtime alliances would be strengthened, and we would make new ones elsewhere.
When I see videos like this one, I cannot help but to laugh at that idea:


This guy is frankly embarrassing.
Pictures of world leaders laughing at his pathetic antics don't help either.



What must the world think of a country that elects that as President? We must be the laughing stock for voting that guy into office! A Harvard educated man who is not creative or intelligent enough to think of more than two different speeches to deliver to all our allies, a middle-aged married man who cannot take his eyes off of some 16 year old's butt, a great orator who can stutter more in one speech than Dubya and Clinton put together in their entire lives, and the bleeding genius who believes that there are 57 states in the US! If it wasn't so sad, it may be funny (say for instance if this France, or some other Third-World country's President).

So Euro-weiners, what do you think of our beloved President now? How do you think he views Europe?

You should also do a bit more research. I've seen the video clip that your third photo was pulled from. He was actually turning around to offer his hand to the woman coming down the steps behind him. The reason he is looking down is he is in the middle of cautioning her against how high the step is. It's quite obvious when you see the video that he is not doing anything creepy.

[Hax]

Why does this thread even have four pages? Are you taking his political views so seriously that you're willing to spend a good portion of your spare time discussing them?

I simply said that even though you hold a view vastly more controversial than mine

Heh. You should look up the thread where I called 300 a racist film. I was personally attacked and suspected of sympathising with al-Qa'ida. Speaking of impopular or controversial views.

[HoreTore]

To derail this thread completely:

300 is a ridiculous film, and has it all backwards. In order for freedom(tm) to win, the persians had to win. Spartas victory ensured the continuation of their hellish totalitarian system.

[a completely inoffensive name]

All of you are wrong. Vuk is completely right about my intentions and I will state them loud and clear right now.

Vuk, I am a liberal. And Thus, I want you out of this backroom because I disagree utterly with everything you write and due to my liberal brain, I cannot comprehend nor tolerate your rational brain anymore.

I want PJ banned as well for understanding the mind of a 1940s German citizen. Because my liberal sensitivities are hurting right now at the thought that anyone can sympathize with someone who may have kind of liked Hitler.

Also, I am very dissapointed in you AtPG. You should know better than to be mean to people and be hypocritical at that.

[classical_hero]

The video itself is humorous, but the rest of the OP is utter rubbish and I don't like President Obama myself, but the OP is not a good reason for disliking him.

[gaelic cowboy]

To derail this thread completely:

300 is a ridiculous film, and has it all backwards. In order for freedom(tm) to win, the persians had to win. Spartas victory ensured the continuation of their hellish totalitarian system.

You mean like the way for Nazism to be defeated meant the Western powers had to effectively unleash Bolshevism on the world. Hmm actually seems quite the same whichever way you spin 300.

[HoreTore]

You mean like the way for Nazism to be defeated meant the Western powers had to effectively unleash Bolshevism on the world. Hmm actually seems quite the same whichever way you spin 300.

No, I mean that the Persians were further up the freedom-ladder than the spartans, who created the most brutal regime the world has ever seen.

A persian victory would've meant more freedom for the spartans. A spartan victory ensured the continuation of their brutal oppression.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

To derail this thread completely:

300 is a ridiculous film, and has it all backwards. In order for freedom(tm) to win, the persians had to win. Spartas victory ensured the continuation of their hellish totalitarian system.

Perisa was a total feudal autocracy. The King of Kings treated his subjects well but they had zero "freedom" and if Persia had one Athens and the other democratic states would have been utterly crushed and political thought would have stagnated

So I hope your post was an unfunny joke.

As far as Sympathising with the Third Reich, if you take away the Death Camps it is not really much worse than any other state at the time. The NAZI regime just brought German efficiency to the type of ethnic cleansing the British and French had been practicing since before the First World War. As far as I know PJ's main contention is that Stalin was worse than Hitler, and who can really argue with that?

[Greyblades]

As far as Sympathising with the Third Reich, if you take away the Death Camps it is not really much worse than any other state at the time. The NAZI regime just brought German efficiency to the type of ethnic cleansing the British and French had been practicing since before the First World War.

Uh-huh. Pray tell where your getting this interesting notion.
Edit: you mean Cromwell and the irish or King Edward and the jews?

[Strike For The South]

Heh. You should look up the thread where I called 300 a racist film. I was personally attacked and suspected of sympathising with al-Qa'ida. Speaking of impopular or controversial views.

Fascist

[Fragony]

Fascist

Personally I find it funnier that that goadherder Alm%^&*^Idunno called 300 an attack on muslim culture. There wasn't any at the time , bit of a 700 year's gap between. beeeeeeeh

[Hax]

Ahmadinejad?

No, but it does fit into the stereotypical Orientalist portrayal of the Middle-East, either pre- or post-Islamic.