FM/regions ratio - client rulers: do they count as FM´s now or not?

[Kleitos]

regarding the gauls i have the same feeling.

..what do you mean with withdraw from public life (wouldn´t withdraw) ?
do i understand it right: you really have 10 women 40 to 50 years old who aren´t married? ..i cant remember a campaign when i even had one women older than 35 who weren´t married.

[d'Arthez]

Non-marriage of female FMs happens quite often, especially if your empire goes through a FM boom, especially if your male children come of age in the span of a few years. You may go years without births or marriage proposals after that for the female children. Unless you expand dramatically. If you play a slow-paced game this will be less of a problem than when you try to blitz the entire game.

For a large empire, the ratio of FM / provinces will be lower as well compared to smaller factions. Thus a challenge with expansion is that you will have relatively fewer family members to go out on conquering sprees or governing difficult to control cities.

[seleucid empire]

not really, as seleucids i control about 150 provinces and have 400 family members but thats including women/children and client rulers. Still thats more than enough fms

[FinnishedBarbarian]

regarding the gauls i have the same feeling.

..what do you mean with withdraw from public life (wouldn´t withdraw) ?
do i understand it right: you really have 10 women 40 to 50 years old who aren´t married? ..i cant remember a campaign when i even had one women older than 35 who weren´t married.

For me it gets increasingly difficult to roleplay my family tree if I let all my female FM's marry suitors who don't have ethnicity I require (it's feels somewhat stupid to play carthage if 3/4 of your FM's are puno-celts, puno-iberians etc etc).

Retiring from public life event is something that happens with most factions when their female FM's reach 40 years or so. After that happens they are taken away from the family tree as if they had died, their pictures change looking same as those ones who have really died.

[Kleitos]

well obviously the question if those client rulers count is still an issue ;-)

..but to be sure i wanna try with using less of them now in future - see what happens with the birth rate.

here on the main site https://www.europabarbarorum.com/features_traits.html is a link to a powerpoint presentation where i found for instance this:

"The game seems to be set to 'prefer' about 2-3 provinces to every general. More generals than that, and you won't get many new family members."
i found nothing there about the client rulers - but actually i can´t remember having this ideal ratio - so much provinces and so few generals.

regarding non marriage of female FM´s - i really had no experience with that yet. ..also never played Carthage, so i dont know the ethnicities there.