Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
While I agree with you on your other observations, I highly disagree with this one. I never had the feeling that Client Rulers count to the FM limit. In my last Romani campaign I heavily used Client rules. Nearly all cities outside of Italy were controlled by Client rulers but my Families are big and still growing in Number, with 2-4 children for every FM.
Client rulers are just script spawned FMs, internally the two are indistinguishable as they are the same character type. Konny is correct, they do count towards the birth rate.