Re: Judging History (branch off from election thread)
Earlier yes I was but I was actually replying to Strike there when you asked for references.Originally Posted by rvg
Apparently you cannot understand history if you make a moral judgement.
I say that going around ignoring Washigtons morals removes one of the biggest reasons to study the man.
Last edited by gaelic cowboy; 04-10-2012 at 18:03.
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
Re: Judging History (branch off from election thread)
Okay, let's start with that Abraham fellow. He's such a dick for agreeing to sacrifice his son to God upon God's instructions.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
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Re: Judging History (branch off from election thread)
Indeed it was
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
Re: Judging History (branch off from election thread)
Allegory, it's an allegory
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: Judging History (branch off from election thread)
It was a joke brah
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: Judging History (branch off from election thread)
Moses demands worse war crimes (in the name of God) than his generals makes.
Noah condemns one of his son and all his decendants to become slaves because that son mocked Noah for Noah getting drunk and sleeping naked.
The Old Testament is full of people that were worse than thier contemporary people. So they fail on both viewpoints.
But to give another example. Due to logistical reasons, pretty much all types of warfare was doing war crimes in the past (they had to live of the land locally). Does that mean that we gain anything by calling all commanders war criminals and than continue to say that him and him was less or worse of a war criminal because what they did?
Doesn't that diminish the war criminals of today?
We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?
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