Question about heroes

**gollum** · 04-10-2012, 21:02

Hi, you could check one of the most known ones - say Jean D'Arc. Her date of birth is 1412. See what the file says. It could be the date from which they become available - or not. Its not certain they will appear at the prescribed date, seems to me, because you may say have trained less units till then and previous heroes may still be queuing to show up.

**Gilrandir** · 04-11-2012, 15:20

Originally Posted by gollum

Hi, you could check one of the most known ones - say Jean D'Arc. Her date of birth is 1412. See what the file says. It could be the date from which they become available - or not. Its not certain they will appear at the prescribed date, seems to me, because you may say have trained less units till then and previous heroes may still be queuing to show up.

Do you mean to say that Joan of Arc, being a woman, appears in the game as one of the generals heading a unit?

**gollum** · 04-11-2012, 15:35

I do indeed, and she does as she did.

**Gilrandir** · 04-12-2012, 14:42

As I pay little attention to generals' names, the appearance of historic persons (except that of El Cid) in the game is a real eye-opener for me. What other well-known persons are there?
And Joan of Arc - next time I play the French I'll watch for her appearance. I wonder what unit she will head. Yet, I don't think it will make much difference as she is going to check in when the game is basically over.

**gollum** · 04-13-2012, 15:51

There's plenty of heroes and not just as generals. There are heroes as agents as well, say famous priests/bishops etc. For a full list you can check the txt file daigaku mentions in your main game folder.

**daigaku** · 04-16-2012, 17:10

Hi,

confirmed the theory of birthdates - even bishops, assassins and emissarys turn up about 16-18 years after the date mentioned in the defaultheroes.txt . (grumble) got my "Guy of Gisborne", a 5star-assassin killed in the attempt to go for a 6star inquisitor....

The file to look for is ...\campmap\names\default_heroes.txt

greetings, daigaku

**caravel** · 04-16-2012, 21:44

Yes the dates in the file are birth dates - searching the modding forums here may have yielded some results.

**Gilrandir** · 04-20-2012, 16:30

Originally Posted by daigaku

Hi,

confirmed the theory of birthdates - even bishops, assassins and emissarys turn up about 16-18 years after the date mentioned in the defaultheroes.txt . (grumble) got my "Guy of Gisborne", a 5star-assassin killed in the attempt to go for a 6star inquisitor....

The file to look for is ...\campmap\names\default_heroes.txt

greetings, daigaku

After perusing the file I discovered some strange entries in it.
First of all, some lists of names of non-faction (in vanilla MTW) peoples - Burgundians, Frisians, Dutch, Welsh, Scottish, etc. Are they applied to generals bred in corresponding provinces? (otherwise their existence is inexplicable).
Second of all - and most astonishing - a list of Mongol princesses' names

Has anyone ever seen Mongol princesses in the game?

**Trapped in Samsara** · 04-11-2012, 16:58

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Do you mean to say that Joan of Arc, being a woman, appears in the game as one of the generals heading a unit?

Now, now GilRandir! No sexism on the Org's boards, please.

Best regards
Victor

Sapere aude
Horace

**daigaku** · 04-11-2012, 18:32

Hi,
as a test started an english/early/GA campaign, they´ve got quite a few heroes in the last years of 11th/first years of 12th century. As far as I got (some 1160s) it seems the dates given in the .txt-files are birthdates. Those guys came along about 16-18 years after the given date, with a strange preferrance for Celtic Warriors (two of the four came as those, though there were Norman Knights to choose as well, being built the same time). I´ll have a look for confirmation...
greetings, daigaku