Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
None of that is even remotely connected to what was put to you in the first place.

The picture below explains what we have being talking about.

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The process is affected by the input which then gives an output that then influences the original input by means of feedback.

Basically what people have been trying to get you to understand is that change happens all the time and our very presence has an effect on it.

Incidently this does not have to mean that man is doomed at all, so you can dispence with the theories that we are doompornographers. However we are part of the eco-system that is both caused by and a cause of the climate back on itself.


Naturally this means because we have an outsize effect on our environment we therefore logically affect the climate.
I was not arguing against the principle of feedback. I was saying that claiming that if we don't actively try to engineer our environment all life will be wiped out except bacteria in vents is complete BS. Sure, we have an impact, but all the doom and gloom is completely uncalled for. People are making too much of too little. Change will come, but it won't be nearly as drastic as some suppose, and it will happen over a long period of time, giving people plenty of time to adapt.

Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
So basically, you demand respect when someone insults your personal religious figure, but you're not willing to extend the same kind of respect to other religious folks. That's cool. I'm not a Christian, but I don't know, I'm not sure he would have wanted people to go around and insult other people. Might just be me.
No, I am simply saying that if I must respect other people's religious figures (even if I don't want to), then so must he. I have no respect at all for the supposed prophet, but the rules here on the Org rigidly stop me from saying what I think about him (I have gotten infractions even for quoting muslim holy texts and making quite obvious interpretations), even when I am arguing about the history of the religion, and not making value judgments. People on the Org rip apart Christian religious figures all the time with impunity though. I know the mods will do nothing about him, so I am asking him to play by the same rules that those who dislike Islam are forced to.