Mini Game: Vanilla Game 6 [Concluded]

[atheotes]

All this "convince me of your innocence" is hogwash. Nobody, possibly other than the 2 who died last night, can convince anyone else of their innocence.
All i can say is i am a townie and i did not do anything last night.

I still dont get the stupid theory that voting "No Lynch" makes me powerful. i voted no lynch because there were no viable candidates, it being D1, and thought it would be nice for everyone to be able to use their powers in this game setup.

[Montmorency]

What powers, then, would you claim? The correspondence with what I know is simply too near to be mere coincidence.

[atheotes]

I am not going to reveal my role except that i am a townie. I dont like to play that way and if you guys want to lynch me for that- i dont care.

[Nightbringer]

"You can contribute after death, can't use private offthread info though, can't PM people, etc."

I take that as meaning I can't reveal things about my role after death

[Montmorency]

I take that as meaning I can't reveal things about my role after death

Oh, right.

I am not going to reveal my role except that i am a townie. I dont like to play that way and if you guys want to lynch me for that- i dont care.

How predictable. But the risk is too high.

[Ishmael]

I am not going to reveal my role except that i am a townie. I dont like to play that way and if you guys want to lynch me for that- i dont care.

Atheotes, I wasn't going to vote for you based on the 'evidence' provided, but your response to the accusations against you have tipped me over the mark. The "I want to let people use their powers at night argument" seems odd from a townie, and saying "fine, lynch me, see if I care" is just blatant - the majority of the times I have seen people say that they have been scum.

vote: atheotes

[SalmonSoil]

I'm not sure if Atheotes really is guilty. Sure his defense is kind of scummy, but he isn't really defending himself against much other than blind faith. I too thought it would be cruel to kill people so early in this game before they got a chance to some of those exciting powers, I just chose to vote against that.

On last nights events: I'm thinking that Nightbringer and Daveshack were tied together as lovers, after Daveshack died Nightbringer was so bereft he had to commit suicide. Daveshack now has no attachment to Nightbringer. Monty knew something about this, and that strengthens his argument for knowing about Atheotes role too, however that doesn't necessarily mean we should trust him. I don't like the way he is being so vague about the prior evidence for his role, directing people to find it themselves. It would be much easier to point it out for us. Also notice how he posted all those love songs yesterday, its as if he was setting it up so that there would be evidence that he knew about Daveshack / Nightbringer.

unvote; vote: Montmorency until he explains properly and plainly where he is getting his information from, and why we should trust him.

I assume we are allowed to reveal what our own roles are while we are alive right?

[Montmorency]

It would be much easier to point it out for us.

You mean like in that very post, wherein was quoted the very post that held the answer?

Also notice how he posted all those love songs yesterday, its as if he was setting it up so that there would be evidence that he knew about Daveshack / Nightbringer.

Almost as if I had realized that I would need to cover for the fact that I didn't know about them?

I am, as Crow deduced, the God of Love. Not clear? As for atheotes, I am restrained to say. I can only be oblique.

I too thought it would be cruel to kill people so early in this game before they got a chance to some of those exciting powers,

If that were the whole point, I should rightly be lynched as having already used my ability to its extent. In fact, however, Town's goal is to prevent hostiles from effecting their bone-melting potential.

What are your Fabulous Magic Powers, then?

[atheotes]

You know for a fact that everyone has magical powers?

[SalmonSoil]

You mean like in that very post, wherein was quoted the very post that held the answer?

Please, take a look at who Nightbringer and Daveshack voted for yesterday. Take a loot at the content of my posts yesterday.

Usually at this point I would expect a player to declare they were the God of Love, instead of telling everyone to figure it out themselves. Nightbringer and Daveshack voted for you. Then they both got night killed and were revealed as lovers. At the same time you were posting mafia related lyrics about love. I'm assuming you made them lovers, then unlucky Daveshack got night killed and as a condition of being a lover Nightbringer died. Your assumption that Daveshack is cool means that possibly Nightbringers death bought him back to life, but that might not be true. You see how it would be easier if you just explained to us what happened? I for one have never encountered a God of Love in mafia before.

I see now that you can't reveal what you think Atheotes is because you believe he has the role you designed. From what I have gathered that role uses no lynches to fuel resurrections and from you statement on immortality possibly makes the player invulnerable to lynches and other deadly effects. These resurrected players are harmless themselves but are of some use to that role, perhaps fueling its immortality? Maybe they act as human shields for this role. This is why you are vague about it, and i can see why it would be a dangerous role in the hands of a communist and why we should suspect everyone who voted no lynch for having it.

Almost as if I had realized that I would need to cover for the fact that I didn't know about them?

When I wrote that post I thought you might have some sort of power giving you information on other players, then hinting heavily at a role that was about to be revealed would give you evidence to convince people to follow your lead in the future. This was because you being the God of Love didn't seem to explain your knowledge of Atheotes, I now see where that knowledge comes from.

I am, as Crow deduced, the God of Love. Not clear? As for atheotes, I am restrained to say. I can only be oblique.

Thanks for the reveal.

I see now that you can't reveal what you think Atheotes is because you believe he has the role you designed. From what I have gathered that role uses no lynches to fuel resurrections and from you statement on immortality possibly makes the player invulnerable to lynches and other deadly effects. These resurrected players are harmless themselves but are of some use to that role, perhaps fueling its immortality? Maybe they act as human shields for this role. This is why you are vague about it, and i can see why it would be a dangerous role in the hands of a communist and why we should suspect everyone who voted no lynch for having it.

If that were the whole point, I should rightly be lynched as having already used my ability to its extent. In fact, however, Town's goal is to prevent hostiles from effecting their bone-melting potential.

What are your Fabulous Magic Powers, then?

Clearly its not the point, and I haven't acting according to that impulse. I'm just saying it is understandable that on day one you might be reluctant to destroy part of what I'm sure is a beautifully diverse range of powers.

At the time I wrote that it hadn't occurred to me you would be vague over Atheotes because the rules required you to, and that the only explanation for your campaign against him had to be some sort of power giving you knowledge of his role. Given this it seemed reasonable to demand you explain why you knew about him as well as Daveshack and Nightbringer. However I don't think everyone should be obliged to role reveal, it would be too easy for scum to just make up a role that seems non-threatening, and they can't be called out on it. Basically, I see no reason why I should reveal my role.

I'm would remove my vote from you, because I no longer think you are guilty, but at the moment Atheotes is pretty much lynched anyway, and to make sure you don't have to worry about me trying to resurrect anyone, I don't want to vote no lynch.

And I'm sure that either the host doesn't mind you indicating that you think a player has the role you invented, as long as you don't give any confirmation to other players if their guesses at the role are correct. You should maybe check that.