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Most genocides in recent decades started because of a lack of law and order, just because it isn't centrally organised doesn't mean it's not genocide.
Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr:
Most genocides in recent decades started because of a lack of law and order, just because it isn't centrally organised doesn't mean it's not genocide.
Indeed they usually do but it's buttering the bread a bit to thick to claim there is some kind of cleansing going on here.Most genocides in recent decades started because of a lack of law and order, just because it isn't centrally organised doesn't mean it's not genocide.
Well not long ago Genocide Watch put them at level 6, stating there was "organized incitement to violence against white people", although it was recently lowered a level.
idk what way South Africa will go. On the one hand there you had that troll Malema shouting "kill the Boer" and he was head of the youth wing of the ruling party. But I heard he got kicked out for it so that restored some faith.
The potential to go the way of Zimbabwe is there though. Hopefully it won't, but it could.
EDIT: Also just some quick browsing suggests 3-4 thousand victims so far is an accepted number.
idk what way South Africa will go. On the one hand there you had that troll Malema shouting "kill the Boer" and he was head of the youth wing of the ruling party. But I heard he got kicked out for it so that restored some faith.
The potential to go the way of Zimbabwe is there though. Hopefully it won't, but it could.
EDIT: Also just some quick browsing suggests 3-4 thousand victims so far is an accepted number.
Anyone else somewhat depressed that we are in a world where a genocide watch is needed?
Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr:
Well not long ago Genocide Watch put them at level 6, stating there was "organized incitement to violence against white people", although it was recently lowered a level.
Yes I don't doubt it's bad enough for essentially isolated communities thats the usual pattern, it has happened before in loads of places and it will happen in other places too.Well not long ago Genocide Watch put them at level 6, stating there was "organized incitement to violence against white people", although it was recently lowered a level.
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idk what way South Africa will go. On the one hand there you had that troll Malema shouting "kill the Boer" and he was head of the youth wing of the ruling party. But I heard he got kicked out for it so that restored some faith.
The potential to go the way of Zimbabwe is there though. Hopefully it won't, but it could.
Malema wouldn't shut up about nationalising mines etc etc and Zuma is no fool he knew Malema would have rode a wave of populism on that card, and it would have scared away much needed FDI too. idk what way South Africa will go. On the one hand there you had that troll Malema shouting "kill the Boer" and he was head of the youth wing of the ruling party. But I heard he got kicked out for it so that restored some faith.
The potential to go the way of Zimbabwe is there though. Hopefully it won't, but it could.
I agree that the potential to go bad is there in SA however while civil society is weaker than say France is not near as bad as when Zimbabwe went down the drain. Malema might split the party which potentially leaves room for the old NDP and other non ANC parties to give an effective opposition. I would stay hopeful about SA democracy to be honest just because things turn bad doesn't mean they will follow an inevitable path downward, sure we fought a civil war and yet handed power to the loser of that war later on in a peaceful transition.
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EDIT: Also just some quick browsing suggests 3-4 thousand victims so far is an accepted number.
It's a depressing figure and to make it worse I wouldn't doubt that many of the times the people knew there killers too.EDIT: Also just some quick browsing suggests 3-4 thousand victims so far is an accepted number.
I was not not aware of the issue with Malema and nationalising the mines... interesting.
Oh well, it looks like we have reached somewhat of a consensus. And on the internet of all places.
Oh well, it looks like we have reached somewhat of a consensus. And on the internet of all places.
Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr:
I was not not aware of the issue with Malema and nationalising the mines... interesting.
Oh well, it looks like we have reached somewhat of a consensus. And on the internet of all places.
Mugabe illness, Julius Malema out: good news for miners?I was not not aware of the issue with Malema and nationalising the mines... interesting.
Oh well, it looks like we have reached somewhat of a consensus. And on the internet of all places.
Down with youth. A noisy challenger, Julius Malema, gets the boot for criticising the boss
He was too dangerous to be left in charge of his former position he would have cut the legs from under the old guard.
I'll just leave the word t Nelson Mandela, things aren't always what they seem, bugger that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc
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