Mentally Retarded Girl Gang Raped In South Africa. n Other News Sky Is Blue

[rvg]

Your assertion was that there is some kind of ignored genocide going on thats is patently untrue.

Perhaps "genocide" is too strong of a word. How about "systematic targeted killings"?

[gaelic cowboy]

Perhaps "genocide" is too strong of a word. How about "systematic targeted killings"?

It wouldnt matter as the implied arguement is that it is ignored because it does not fit with a particular left world view.

[rvg]

It wouldnt matter as the implied arguement is that it is ignored because it does not fit with a particular left world view.

I don't know about "ignored", but I definitely do not see the press beating the drums to attract attention to this issue.

[gaelic cowboy]

I don't know about "ignored", but I definitely do not see the press beating the drums to attract attention to this issue.

The press have to make money to sure you cant have reporters swanning around the place all over the world everyweek sending in copy.

Seeing as the malema factor has came in for particular attention it's fair to say it's not being ignored at all.

Especially due to fact it could potentialy split the ANC and unleash potentialy even more violence across SA, all while trying to ride the handcart of political populism all the way the presidency.

[rvg]

Especially due to fact it could potentialy split the ANC and unleash potentialy even more violence across SA, all while trying to ride the handcart of political populism all the way the presidency.

Possibility of violence is not good enough of a reason to under-report events imho. But you're right in a sense that they need to make money, and Malema's theatrics amount to a goldmine.

[Rhyfelwyr]

To be fair, whatever you want to call the killings in South Africa, they aren't being ignored on the international scene. The response has been fairly proportional to the scale and nature of the killings.

Whether or not there is a slight left-leaning bias in western media, I still think they are generally trustworthy.

[rvg]

Whether or not there is a slight left-leaning bias in western media, I still think they are generally trustworthy.

I agree, but there's still lots of room for improvement.

[Fragony]

Perhaps "genocide" is too strong of a word. How about "systematic targeted killings"?

Isn't that really the same thing? We are talking about thousands, not a few

Sorry for saying you are a liar by the way GC that looked a lot more hostile than it was intended.

[rvg]

Isn't that really the same thing? We are talking about thousands, not a few

I'm hesitant to call it genocide merely because it only targets white landowners, i.e. there's a distinct class aspect to the whole tragedy. Genocide tends to be indiscriminate.

[Fragony]

I'm hesitant to call it genocide merely because it only targets white landowners, i.e. there's a distinct class aspect to the whole tragedy. Genocide tends to be indiscriminate.

Bit of a language mixup here, 'Boer' is Dutch for 'farmer', but in SA it just means white. When they call for killing the Boers it just means killing the whites

[rvg]

Bit of a language mixup here, 'Boer' is Dutch for 'farmer', but in SA it just means white. When they call for killing the Boers it just means killing the whites

Then it's genocide.

[gaelic cowboy]

Then it's genocide.

No your right about the class thing RVG they are farmers and naturally they live in rural and generally isolated areas. Essentially there seen has having all the land and money and these people want it.

Certainly these murders have a racial element to them how else would these fellows frame it but as getting the land back.

These things as always are driven by the hunger for land an money, no doubt a local bigwig buys the farm at acution(reduced price I bet too) an either sells it on or divides it up between the gang.

[Fragony]

No your right about the class thing RVG they are farmers and naturally they live in rural and generally isolated areas. Essentially there seen has having all the land and money and these people want it.

Certainly these murders have a racial element to them how else would these fellows frame it but as getting the land back.

These things as always are driven by the hunger for land an money, no doubt a local bigwig buys the farm at acution(reduced price I bet too) an either sells it on or divides it up between the gang.

lol at that the rich white have their own private militias or live in heavily armed gated communities where everything crawling over gets shot on sight.

[Fragony]

Then it's genocide.

gracias

[Strike For The South]

Bit of a language mixup here, 'Boer' is Dutch for 'farmer', but in SA it just means white. When they call for killing the Boers it just means killing the whites

Boer specifically refers to whites of Dutch extraction (Afrikaners)

[Fragony]

Boer specifically refers to whites of Dutch extraction (Afrikaners)

For the Brittish perhaps, but there, no

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

For the Brittish perhaps, but there, no

Um, no "Boer" does refer to the landowners and not urban whites of British extraction. For one thing, Boers often speak less English than Blacks, something Mandela discusses in his biography. Of course, after independance the state was run by the Boers, not the Brits.

Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't genocide, because Boers are a distinct ethnic group.