I miss Adrian, Louis and Tribesman

[Rhyfelwyr]

No, he argued about context. The same word can have different meaning depending on context.

Yeah, and that's why his argument was ridiculous. Was he calling Fragony a "Muslim cigarette"? Or a "Muslim food product"?

The context couldn't have been more clear.

The only real argument he could make was that what he said wasn't malicous, and was intended in good fun. Which I don't doubt everybody accepts. Just doesn't change the fact that swear words aren't allowed on this forum.

[Kagemusha]

"

One of these days the ground

will drop out from beneath

your feet

One of these days your heart
will stop and play its final
beat

One of these days the clocks
will stop and time won't
mean a thing

One of these days their bombs
will drop and silence
everything

But it's all right
Yet it's all right
I said it's all right


Easy for you to say
Your heart has never been broken
Your pride has never been stolen

Not yet not yet."

[Sarmatian]

Yeah, and that's why his argument was ridiculous. Was he calling Fragony a "Muslim cigarette"? Or a "Muslim food product"?

The context couldn't have been more clear.

The only real argument he could make was that what he said wasn't malicous, and was intended in good fun. Which I don't doubt everybody accepts. Just doesn't change the fact that swear words aren't allowed on this forum.

You still don't understand - his point was that meaning/nature of the word depend on context and as an example of it he pointed out that the very word were discussing can have totally different meanings. Likewise, it can have different meaning depending on the intent and the relationship of people in question -> it can be used to insult someone or in a humorous way, and, knowing Louis and his and Fragony's history, it was definitely a joke. That was pretty clear, especially as we're talking about a guy who was nominated for the funniest member of the .org year after year and won it three times.

I called Louis a "frog with a cow fetish". Why wasn't I warned or given infractions if jokes about someone's sexuality are a big no-no? Arguably, that's even worse cause I'm implying that his sexual preference includes quadrupeds.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I understand perfectly well. As I said, Louis did not use the word in any sort of malicious way, since Frags and everyone knew he was kidding on.

However, he said the word in such a context that the only meaning that could have been intended was to refer to a person's sexuality, even if only in jest. The word, used in that context, is a swear word. Whether used maliciously or not, that is against forum rules.

Saying Louis has a cow fetish does not involve swearing. On the other hand if I were to jokingly say to you, "Oh Sarmatian, you're such a [swear word]", I would expect an infraction.

[Sarmatian]

I understand perfectly well. As I said, Louis did not use the word in any sort of malicious way, since Frags and everyone knew he was kidding on.

However, he said the word in such a context that the only meaning that could have been intended was to refer to a person's sexuality, even if only in jest. The word, used in that context, is a swear word. Whether used maliciously or not, that is against forum rules.

Saying Louis has a cow fetish does not involve swearing. On the other hand if I were to jokingly say to you, "Oh Sarmatian, you're such a [swear word]", I would expect an infraction.

So, I'm not allowed to say "Louis, you like to **** animals",
but I'm allowed to say "Louis, you like having intercourse with animals"

Do you understand how silly this is, and totally against the spirit of the forum rules, even if it is within the letter. How many infractions and bans could have been handed out so far if we stuck to the letter of the rules in the backroom? And yet, the backroom remains one of most civil and insightful fora that deals with controversial issues I've ever seen and we've discussed religious matters, gay issues, guns, genocides, massacres, terrorism, racism and many more difficult topics...

[Rhyfelwyr]

So, I'm not allowed to say "Louis, you like to **** animals",
but I'm allowed to say "Louis, you like having intercourse with animals"

Do you understand how silly this is, and totally against the spirit of the forum rules, even if it is within the letter. How many infractions and bans could have been handed out so far if we stuck to the letter of the rules in the backroom? And yet, the backroom remains one of most civil and insightful fora that deals with controversial issues I've ever seen and we've discussed religious matters, gay issues, guns, genocides, massacres, terrorism, racism and many more difficult topics...

Well, I think "intercourse" is a bit crude. I would think swearing is banned simply because the words themselves are harsh and unpleasant.

Of course, there's an infinite number of times when Louis and Strike exchanged banter that had obvious sexual overtones. I don't think anybody had a problem with that.

But when you start being more explicit and bringing in either swearing or crude terms, it had a much less pleasant tone IMO.