Merkel Is Getting Me All Hot And Bothered

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

If you mean you wouldn't feed Mc Donalds food to your dog, then I agree completely. Such a thing would be animal cruelty.

If I had a dog it would by an Irish Wolfhound called Raider, I would teach him to Hold and Return on command and he would go everywhere with me, except at night when he would sleep outside my door.e
He would eat what I eat, within reason, and I do not eat carboard chips cow intestines.

Why would ye be ateing anything anyway sure tis only time for more drink in the early house.

Some of us don't have your unique digestion, I require BEEF or LAMB with my ALE.

I largely agree with most your post, but I quoted this part because it's something that's been bothering me for a while now.

People usually frame the issue as a cultural issue, and speak of "western culture". But the unspoken assumption is that stuff like democracy and political rights are cultural things. If we were to stop counting those as cultural things, the cultural overlap between Europeans would be a lot smaller. Japan is sometimes referred to as a western, or at least westernised country - largely because it has adopted free market policies and constitutional democracy. Genuine cultural differences are casually dismissed as idiosyncracies.

In a sense you could consider the political rights western people nowadays enjoy a cultural development of the past 3 centuries or so. But the point I'm trying to make is that it should be considered a class apart. It's the only part of our cultural heritage that is seriously worth fighting for - I would not, for example, partake in a protest to protect traditional Dutch cuisine (probably a bad example).

In my opinion a lot of these debates about issues surrounding Islam and foreign cultures in general are made more complicated than they should be; truth suffers to much from analysis. People ought to respect the law and be accorded the same rights as everyone else, period. Cultural practices that conflict should not be sanctioned or accommodated in anyway, and any other cultural practices and customs are utterly irrelevant. On the face of it this might seem like an extremely obvious position to take, yet sadly, most discussions get so bogged down in particularites of cultures that such basic tenets are completely out of sight.

I suppose the idea is that our culture produced these freedoms, and not over the last 3 centuries so much as the last 10 or 20. Remember, there's a huge dose of Roman in our culture, and that brings me to point.

I think Europeans are conditioned to fear Islam, and with good reason. Take a look at a map circa 400 AD, that big red bit is under the Pax Romanum. It's getting a bit ropy, but this is where you have genuinely free and autonomous men, law courts, not only criminal but civil cases, women can hold property and Christianity holds even the Emperor to account.

Fast forward to 700 AD and a big swathe of that has gone Green - sure the Barbarians have taken over Western Europe but they're already learning Latin, Rome still elects magistrates and the Christian bishops are starting to argue over law again. Meanwhile, in the East the Emperor is fighting a losing war against an Alien culture that sweeps all before it. They aren't like the Germans, instead of learning Latin they translate in Arabic, and they destroy whatever doesn't agree with their God with no regard to the past.

Fast Forward again, 1000 AD, and there are now princes who speak adn read in Latin again, Lawyers and law Courts have reestablished themselves not only in Italy but also in France, even the peasants are starting to learn to read their Vulgar Latin. Meanwhile, the March of Islam has continued unabated, roughly 2/3 of the former Roman Empire is either under their sway or threatened. In North Africa Roman Civilisation is just GONE and both the place of Christ's Birth and Death are under sway of an Alien culture.

After this of course came the Crusades, which really should seen less as a war of Conquest and more as an attempt to regain lost ground.

Here's the point: What we think of as "Europe" is the rump of the Roman Empire after North Africa and the Near East are shown off. 2,000 years ago, even 1,500 years ago Morocco was culturally closer to Rome than London, and much wealthier. What changed that is not conquest or Roman collapse, but Islam and Islamic cultural policies.

Fear of Islam is built into our history, Muslims are the ultimate boggy men, worse even that Attila the Hun because Atilla left something Roman in his wake, the Caliphs didn't. So today the unspoken fear is that what happened in Anatolia, Egypt and North Africa can happen in Italy or France and this fear is in no way diminished by the stated belief of a significant number of Muslims that they want to make Europe more sympathetic to Islamic law and customs.