YOUR IDEAS

**hameleona** · 05-15-2012, 23:28

Big thing that i found, while testing for a map.

I think, that we should add the new factions last. And after extensive testing. The original RTW map is to small for more factions, and MM4.0 has another problem - it's too big to the east. No one can really harass the selucids. I suggest not touching the faction list, but waiting till the end for introducing them to the game (with the exception of the Illyrians, witch fit very well in the game-balance). Bosporians, the new celtic kingdom and nabateans should be the last made and implemented.

Couse, lets look at it from a practical point - if the selucid or some other faction just owns the campaign (similar to the Macedonians in RTR) couse they have no real enemies and great economy. That is all. I'm not saying that we will change the faction list. Just suggesting to wait till the end (not to mention, that two of those factions will be easy to make).

**ahowl11** · 05-16-2012, 00:30

Why not use Philadelphos' map? My mod is using Mundus Magnus 4.0 and hameleona makes a good point about the Seleucids. The key is to make their eastern settlements weaker, and more likely to rebel because it will make it hard for the player, especially when Parthia is coming down. Also make the revolts consist of large stacks experienced troops that way it makes it even harder for the Seleucids. Thats what I am doing for my mod

**Asgaroth** · 05-16-2012, 13:39

Why not use Philadelphos' map?

What is that map and where can it be found ?

Thanks for the advice.

However if we make Parthian,Armenian roaster a little better as we will make the Numidian one, so they are not so weak and that the Seleucids will have stronger enemyes.

**ahowl11** · 05-16-2012, 18:25

Actually never mind that map. This one would be better for you as it is similar to Roma Surrectums and I remember you wanting Roma Surrectum's
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=Europa+270+BC

**Asgaroth** · 05-16-2012, 20:02

Thanks ahowl11.

I like it alot. Because I just wanted the extended vanilla map.

But I will wait to see what hameleona has to say.

Thank you again !

**hameleona** · 05-16-2012, 23:23

Didn't know that map. I'll test it tonight. I know MM 3.0 very well, so i can actually easily change the starting regions and stuff on it, while i'm lost on this one, but i do like the idea. I'll test the AI behavior on it, and post my thoughts. Realism is a great thing, but RTW's AI path-finding is not the best one.

That is all i'll say for now, having a lot of personal work, so it will happen, when it happens. ;)

**hameleona** · 05-16-2012, 23:37

Well, i see a problem right away - Illyria has only two regions.

Actually, that map will be quite good, and probably won't have a problem with the strategic balance, so if Asgaroth likes it - we can use it. But i recommend playing on it a few times, so that you decide if you like it.

Only problem i had with the MM maps was the pretty big Selucid Empire, witch had a lot of small and (well, putting it bluntly) useless enemies. Armenia, Pontus, Parthia - they all didn't had the strength to match them. Egypt was the only threat. So, technically, if Asgaroth wants an enlarged vanilla map - we can use this one, and beg someone to add a few regions here and there (illyria is my biggest concern - to few regions is a bad thing for a faction, that will be between macedon, GCS, Celts and not long-after - the romans).