Company of Heroes 2 announced

[rickinator9]

The panzer elite one was fun, but still, I wanna play the germans when they were at the best. The so called Panzer Elite which isn't really elite, as their tanks are rather outdated, just doesn't do it much for me.

[Graphic]

Germans when they were at their best = Panzer 38s and IIIs and a few IVs. Stalingrad was in '42. Ironically, they had those big monsters when they were losing.

[Voigtkampf]

Graphic-dono, the point being is that you can't make the Wehrmacht/Nazi forces the main "protagonist/faction", the carrying force of the game. It's all about PC.

[Graphic]

There are three German campaigns in the two Company of Heroes expansions, its safe to say Relic isn't shy about hurting people's feelings or being PC. No one takes offense to Das Boot, Der Untergang, Stalingrad, etc. and those are made by the Germans themselves, perhaps the ones most touchy about pro-Nazi viewpoints besides their former victims. A German perspective is not a political correctness issue except with maybe radical leftists.

Its more about you can't have the main campaign of an RTS game be on a faction where you lose for most of the war. Half the missions would be "hold off the allied advance while you cover the retreat." Even if you arbitrarily limited it to the part of the war where Germany was on the offensive, it ends in an anti-climactic way. "Great, I just attacked Stalingrad...and was unable to push out the remaining Russians west of the Volga. I...win?" And then you know what's going to happen in a few months after that.

Allied campaigns as the main focus of a brand new title is simply logical. Unless you're like Men of War where just the missions themselves are the draw with presentation, continuity and story given five minutes of thought. Relic, not being a Russian developer, would take issue with that.

[Husar]

What they really should do is make a Company of Heroes / Men of War with all the crazy tanks from WoT, I know Men of War has the T29 but I want all the others, too!

[rickinator9]

Its more about you can't have the main campaign of an RTS game be on a faction where you lose for most of the war. Half the missions would be "hold off the allied advance while you cover the retreat." Even if you arbitrarily limited it to the part of the war where Germany was on the offensive, it ends in an anti-climactic way. "Great, I just attacked Stalingrad...and was unable to push out the remaining Russians west of the Volga. I...win?" And then you know what's going to happen in a few months after that.

Well, there you have an issue with the soviets. They lost almost all battles with the Germans until Stalingrad. Relic is able to make playing the losing side fun, as seen with the PE campaign.

[Veho Nex]

Well, there you have an issue with the soviets. They lost almost all battles with the Germans until Stalingrad. Relic is able to make playing the losing side fun, as seen with the PE campaign.

Considering Market Garden was a major allied failure, I dont think the PE campaign is the losing side.

[Veho Nex]

Well, there you have an issue with the soviets. They lost almost all battles with the Germans until Stalingrad. Relic is able to make playing the losing side fun, as seen with the PE campaign.

Considering Market Garden was a major allied failure, I dont think the PE campaign is the losing side.

[The Stranger]

nothing is more fun than games where you have to defend the retreat :P against overwhelming odds ofcourse

[Graphic]

Well, there you have an issue with the soviets. They lost almost all battles with the Germans until Stalingrad. Relic is able to make playing the losing side fun, as seen with the PE campaign.

The game will almost certainly start a little before or during Stalingrad, probably ending in Berlin.