North Carolina Passes Amendment Banning Same-sex Unions

[Strike For The South]

I am glad people are coming to the conclusion of separate but equal institutions for different people. It's like living in the past. Now if only I can find my time machine.

Who is coming to that conclusion?

Greek logic and thought predate the bible...

No where near as important as the bible. A fair bit important but not the cornerstone

[Kralizec]

No where near as important as the bible. A fair bit important but not the cornerstone

Okay. I won't argue that christianity has been influential, and that even for those abandoned it and their descendants there is a lingering effect. But to what extent, and to what effect?

Every functioning society in history has outlawed murder, theft and whatnot. Because if those societies didn't, they would have perished and would only be a footnote in history. So A) what is so special about christianity, and B) what is useful to preserve from that from a secular perspecive?

[Strike For The South]

Okay. I won't argue that christianity has been influential, and that even for those abandoned it and their descendants there is a lingering effect. But to what extent, and to what effect?

Every functioning society in history has outlawed murder, theft and whatnot. Because if those societies didn't, they would have perished and would only be a footnote in history. So A) what is so special about christianity, and B) what is useful to preserve from that from a secular perspecive?

I haven't figured that part out yet. I AM ONLY A CHILD

I go to school
I work
I try to get the pretty girls to look at me

There is only so much time for musing!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Okay. I won't argue that christianity has been influential, and that even for those abandoned it and their descendants there is a lingering effect. But to what extent, and to what effect?

Every functioning society in history has outlawed murder, theft and whatnot. Because if those societies didn't, they would have perished and would only be a footnote in history. So A) what is so special about christianity, and B) what is useful to preserve from that from a secular perspecive?

C.S. Lewis' answer to A was "Grace", that God will give you something you don't deserve because he loves you, and humans are called to echo this.

The correct answer to B is "nothing", In believe. The only important part of Christianity is that God loves all his children equally, completely and wihtout reservation - all the rest is just window dressing which is completely shawn of meaning without that central truth.

You want to take something useful from Christianity? Either love God or do what the Muslims did and keep some Christians around to do their thing.

[Papewaio]

No where near as important as the bible. A fair bit important but not the cornerstone

Except just like the pagan rituals that were incorporated post the editorial process of the bible so were myths and legend incorporated from the mix available.

Obviously the old testament is the base of this perfume. Throw in some of the other beliefs of the Roman empire such as an anointed one with 12 disciples and a traitor (story format predates Jesus). Etc

Then look at the philosophical traditions of the Church and it never operated in a vacuum. All thought, philosophy and logic did not spring new from that institution. They were widely read scholars too and used idea systems that predate Christain thought.

In the end it is a product of its environment and it used Hebrew, Greek and Roman thought systems to perceive itself. The bible is not the wellspring it is a leaf on the water flows from tributaries that feed into a much bigger environment.

Love thy neighbour is just one form of the golden rule which is found in many other thought systems that predate the bible.