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    gradual advances in keeping with the progress of culture can accomplish a lot of good, in situations where a sudden revolution would either fail or come with significant and undesired side-effects.
    Sounds like someone has read him some Edmund Burke. Which is a good thing.

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    So it's a sin to have sex out of marriage.

    It is also a sin to make someone sin. Entrapment, foul play, mockery, deceit etc

    Love outranks Faith and Belief.

    So Christians denying homosexuals the ability to be married are denying them the right to have sex in marriage. They are denying them from declaring to society their commitment.

    Aren't these people ignoring Corinthians and pushing homosexuals to sin by denying them marriage? Aren't these Christians casting the first stone yet creating the sin by denying love and marriage?

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    So it's a sin to have sex out of marriage.

    It is also a sin to make someone sin. Entrapment, foul play, mockery, deceit etc

    Love outranks Faith and Belief.

    So Christians denying homosexuals the ability to be married are denying them the right to have sex in marriage. They are denying them from declaring to society their commitment.

    Aren't these people ignoring Corinthians and pushing homosexuals to sin by denying them marriage? Aren't these Christians casting the first stone yet creating the sin by denying love and marriage?

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    Government should not be able to make religions have marriage ceremonies they disagree with. Religion should not be interferon with the State in treating all adults the same regardless of race creed or orientation.
    All sex is a sin, because it is partley selfish.

    Meh.

    The Bible says that God permits ex within marriage solely because it produces children, so your argument holds no water.

    Love of God is considered superior to all other forms of love, Faith is an expression of Godly Love, so that bit doesn't hold up either.
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    Having joy of something is not selfish. Selfish is not sharing the joy. So wouldnt masturbation outrank consensual sex as a sin?

    I think I is far worse to approach sex as a chore or procreation activity then to approach it as a sharing, caring commitment between two people. A hug inside and out.

    I can't really see it as a sin when it is a physical expression of the emotional love I have for another and the desire to build a future with them and a family too. But my love for my wife would not be diminished if we could not have children. If sex is just for procreation then it seems harsh to cast a childless couple as worse sinners then ones who have kids. Not the type of God that I would look up to, nor consistent with a loving, caring father figure. I'd be a failure as a dad if I prized being a grand dad over commerisating with a child of mine who could not have children yet was in an otherwise loving caring relationship.

    I thought we were all sinners to start with, might as well keep the most practical and caring sins then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    So it's a sin to have sex out of marriage.

    It is also a sin to make someone sin. Entrapment, foul play, mockery, deceit etc

    Love outranks Faith and Belief.

    So Christians denying homosexuals the ability to be married are denying them the right to have sex in marriage. They are denying them from declaring to society their commitment.

    Aren't these people ignoring Corinthians and pushing homosexuals to sin by denying them marriage? Aren't these Christians casting the first stone yet creating the sin by denying love and marriage?

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    Government should not be able to make religions have marriage ceremonies they disagree with. Religion should not be interferon with the State in treating all adults the same regardless of race creed or orientation.
    Uh-huh. And, therefore, it's also a sin to force people to steal things. You're entrapping them by not willingly giving them whatever they want beforehand.
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