North Carolina Passes Amendment Banning Same-sex Unions

[Ironside]

Oh yes?

Why don't you share with the group?

Unfortunately - those twin studies seem to indicate there is not a biological factor which is deterministic.

Unless you're going to argue that over 50% are secretly gay, then it still has a significant biological factor.

Similar to left handedness (or right handedness) that's totally a concious choise... 2 left handed parents still only got less than 50% of their children being left handed, far from 100%, but much higher than the population average. Having one laft handed and one right handed identical twin is not that uncommon, way more common that having 2 left handed one for example.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Unless you're going to argue that over 50% are secretly gay, then it still has a significant biological factor.

Similar to left handedness (or right handedness) that's totally a concious choise... 2 left handed parents still only got less than 50% of their children being left handed, far from 100%, but much higher than the population average. Having one laft handed and one right handed identical twin is not that uncommon, way more common that having 2 left handed one for example.

Sorry?

No, identical twins are identical in felhandedness - "mirror twins" occur when the egg splits slightly later, and they mirror in everything, right down to moles and rogue eyebrow hairs/crooked teeth. Nobody actuall knows what causes people to favour one hand over another, one theory is that every left-hander is a surviving twin.

Different process.

If the genetic factors were deterministic, i.e. if it "caused gayness" then you would expect a much higher correlation

[The Stranger]

Sorry?

No, identical twins are identical in felhandedness - "mirror twins" occur when the egg splits slightly later, and they mirror in everything, right down to moles and rogue eyebrow hairs/crooked teeth. Nobody actuall knows what causes people to favour one hand over another, one theory is that every left-hander is a surviving twin.

Different process.

If the genetic factors were deterministic, i.e. if it "caused gayness" then you would expect a much higher correlation

im bipolar, how does that happen? :O and bisexual?

[Fragony]

im bipolar, how does that happen? :O and bisexual?

No you are just being incredibly normal, any internet forum has seen it a ultraextrathousand times before. That is why it's boring. It's not smart, don't let anyone tell you otherwise

[The Stranger]

No you are just being incredibly normal, any internet forum has seen it a ultraextrathousand times before. That is why it's boring. It's not smart, don't let anyone tell you otherwise

lol frag, you have some issues... no one was talking about smart or special -_-

go play with your kittens

btw what did the kittens give you for mothers day? XD

[Ironside]

Sorry?

No, identical twins are identical in felhandedness - "mirror twins" occur when the egg splits slightly later, and they mirror in everything, right down to moles and rogue eyebrow hairs/crooked teeth. Nobody actuall knows what causes people to favour one hand over another, one theory is that every left-hander is a surviving twin.

Different process.

If the genetic factors were deterministic, i.e. if it "caused gayness" then you would expect a much higher correlation

Hm, the "mirror twins" was new to me. Shame that I couldn't find any data taking that into consideration.

Anyway, my point about left handedness running in the family, while having far from a 100% correlation still stands. It has evidently a genetical factor (possibly an indirect one), but it's not the sole factor and it aren't a choise for the vast majority.

[Papewaio]

First genes are machines with racks of switches that can be turned on and off. Expecting the exact same outcome with the same genes is like expecting the same software on a PC just because they have the same hardware.

Add to it a self learning brain and you have a truly complex situation.

Humans are wonderfully complex. Gene components work in a quantum world. I would be more surprised that all twins with the same genes have 100% the same preferences. Humans have more options hen a six sided die.

Also can anyone explain why more younger siblings are homosexual? That would explain the declining numbers given smaller family sizes quite neatly.