The Elephant in the room.

**Fragony** · 05-13-2012, 20:25

Being called a fascist is kinda becomming a badge of honour really, mentally block problem all you want, changes nada. It's a typical leftist mistake to confuse how they want things to be and what simply is. And what simply is is that white girls are targeted by muslim immigrants.

**HoreTore** · 05-13-2012, 20:27

Originally Posted by Fragony

Being called a fascist is kinda becomming a badge of honour really, mentally block problem all you want, changes nada. It's a typical leftist mistake to confuse how they want things to be and what simply is. And what simply is is that white girls are targeted by muslim immigrants.

That was the case here, according to the judge who gave them a harder punishment because of it.

**Fragony** · 05-13-2012, 20:37

Originally Posted by HoreTore

That was the case here, according to the judge who gave them a harder punishment because of it.

They weren't exactly in a hurry to do so. There is an underlying problem here that simply needs to be adressed and that problem is muslim immigrants having absolutely no respect for western women, seeing them as whores that can be snatched at will. If you say that isn't a problem I really don't know what to say. If that makes me a fascist fine, it doesn't insult me in the slightest because I know how much it's worth.

**HoreTore** · 05-13-2012, 20:54

Originally Posted by Fragony

They weren't exactly in a hurry to do so. There is an underlying problem here that simply needs to be adressed and that problem is muslim immigrants having absolutely no respect for western women, seeing them as whores that can be snatched at will. If you say that isn't a problem I really don't know what to say. If that makes me a fascist fine, it doesn't insult me in the slightest because I know how much it's worth.

I suggest you reread the thread.

**Fragony** · 05-13-2012, 21:03

Originally Posted by HoreTore

I suggest you reread the thread.

I umderstand your position, they got trialed and sentenced. Looks good but only on the surface, the attitude towards women is in need of a serious overhaul in some communities. Sexual harrasment is a horrible thing, and rape is the worst of humiliations. It happens way too much and it are way too often men from a certain background.

I am not out for the muslims, just not looking away either.

**HoreTore** · 05-13-2012, 21:10

Originally Posted by Fragony

I umderstand your position, they got trialed and sentenced. Looks good but only on the surface, the attitude towards women is in need of a serious overhaul in some communities. Sexual harrasment is a horrible thing, and rape is the worst of humiliations. It happens way too much and it are way too often men from a certain background.

I am not out for the muslims, just not looking away either.

I am fully in favour of more feminism, and I know it's urgently needed among immigrants. We also need to be better at handling sexual crimes.

What I have a problem with in this thread is the nonsensical, completely unfounded and ridiculous accusation being made.

**Fragony** · 05-13-2012, 21:18

Originally Posted by HoreTore

I am fully in favour of more feminism, and I know it's urgently needed among immigrants. We also need to be better at handling sexual crimes.

What I have a problem with in this thread is the nonsensical, completely unfounded and ridiculous accusation being made.

Not unfounded it is your own police saying it. That's the rape part but the sad part is that women got kinda used to getting harrased, women dye their hair, don't wear skirts anymore. It's just racism. White women aren't the only victims, pregnant Marrocan women was attacked last week by 5 screwups because she was walking with a black, kicked the lights of her baby out. I think you mean well but don't really know what you are talking about.

**Ironside** · 05-14-2012, 20:09

Originally Posted by Fragony

I umderstand your position, they got trialed and sentenced. Looks good but only on the surface, the attitude towards women is in need of a serious overhaul in some communities. Sexual harrasment is a horrible thing, and rape is the worst of humiliations. It happens way too much and it are way too often men from a certain background.

I am not out for the muslims, just not looking away either.

You would probably do better by not going for the Muslim angle at all. It's not because they Muslims, it's because they've got backward traditions. Christian minorities are about as bad if coming from the same area, and Muslims from other areas aren't a problem.

It's way more accurate and is harder to make a counter argument about.

**Kadagar_AV** · 05-14-2012, 20:37

Originally Posted by Ironside

You would probably do better by not going for the Muslim angle at all. It's not because they Muslims, it's because they've got backward traditions. Christian minorities are about as bad if coming from the same area, and Muslims from other areas aren't a problem.

It's way more accurate and is harder to make a counter argument about.

But... Backward tradition and religion, isn't that kind of the same thing?

The secular Iranians who came to Sweden during the cultural revolution has done well here, the muslim Iranians who has come lately - not so much.