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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    Once you get away from northern europe/scandanavia women are, pretty much, in the main regarded as slabs of meat. To be used. At whim.*

    *OK broad brush but made to make a point.
    It worth mentioning that I was grabbed in the groin by a female totally unknown to me in London though. 'checking out your package'

    Edit. hax you silly boy, don't know if I should give you a pet on the hat or slap you in your face
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    Did they just make those figures up then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I wish I had a 'handringing' smilie.

    *Not true and you effin know it.
    The perpotrators were caught by the police and sentenced by the courts. And they got additional sentencing because of their view on women.

    Yes, what protection. So much for fascist paranoia.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The perpotrators were caught by the police and sentenced by the courts. And they got additional sentencing because of their view on women.

    Yes, what protection. So much for fascist paranoia.
    These things happen all the time, this just got in the news. Muslims are responsible for not 98, not 99, but 100% responsible for all streetrape in your own capital. Or aren't they

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    90percent of UK cases of child grooming for sex are against individuals from a west Asian ethnic/cultural background.

    I am happy to conclude two things:
    1) the culture is inferior in respect to British values, and assimilation ought to be a priority
    2) immigration from these places should slow sufficiently to allow assimilation of those here already

    I don't feel the same urge to apply this maxim to the finnish community.

    This is discrimination, I am okay with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    These things happen all the time, this just got in the news. Muslims are responsible for not 98, not 99, but 100% responsible for all streetrape in your own capital. Or aren't they
    No, they are not.

    But I have to admit, it makes such a good story, so why bother with the facts?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    90percent of UK cases of child grooming for sex are against individuals from a west Asian ethnic/cultural background.
    That kinda pulls the plug on the paranoia in this thread, that the police don't investigate muslims, doesn't it?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    No, they are not.

    But I have to admit, it makes such a good story, so why bother with the facts?
    Yes, they are. And even if it was 99% it would be bad. Heck, if it was 80% it would be pretty bad. But it's 100% bad. A woman is more likely to get raped on the streets of Norway than she is when entering a township in South Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yes, they are. And even if it was 99% it would be bad. Heck, if it was 80% it would be pretty bad. But it's 100% bad. A woman is more likely to get raped on the streets of Norway than she is when entering a township in South Africa.
    Considering that the norwegian police don't do statistics on religious affiliation, I'm not curious about where you got your number from, as I know it's fake, probably taken from some random racist blog.

    As for the likelyhood of getting raped on the streets; it's insignificant. The last "rape-wave" was about 10 rapes or so in a months time, from a population of about 300.000 women. It's a higher risk than getting murdered though(20-30 murders per year in Norway).
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    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Considering that the norwegian police don't do statistics on religious affiliation, I'm not curious about where you got your number from, as I know it's fake, probably taken from some random racist blog.
    Comes from your own police in fact mia muca

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Comes from your own police in fact mia muca
    Then it's a garantueed fake, since they don't do statistics on religious affiliation.

    Check thy sources.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    That kinda pulls the plug on the paranoia in this thread, that the police don't investigate muslims, doesn't it?
    Perhaps so, but that is not my concern.

    My concern is why an immigrant group that makes up circa 5 percent of the population is responsible for 90 percent of child sex ring cases

    Further, my concern is why it seems to matter so little when we all know that volume would be dialed up to 11 if this was catholic priests! I am not catholic, christian, or from a catholic country.

    Inverse/positive racism does appear to be a problem, and a problem caused by the necessity to defend the creed of multiculturalism rather than expect assimilation from our many immigrant groups.

    We are in effect electing to continue importing serious and socially divisive crimes, committed against british nationals! I am a civic nationalist, so it is the "british" part that I care about.

    Again, to use the finnish situation, I know loads of them and many are friends, but they are always dispersed and never really socialize in clumps. Moreover, they appear to be responsible for an utterly negligible proportion of crime. They seem like an ideal immigrant group and I would discriminate in favorite of finnish nationals if we selected economic migrants.

    Ergo, I would discriminate against other ethno-cultural groups. I am sure some useful criteria based on tendency to geographic dispersion and proportion of serious offenses could be drafted.

    This of course being an entirely separate matter from asylum seekers.
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    The problem with the Catholic abuse wasn't the abuse itself, but the response from the church, ie. the cover-ups and internal investigations.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Then it's a garantueed fake, since they don't do statistics on religious affiliation.

    Check thy sources.
    I did. Did you. A little google will settle things really fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The problem with the Catholic abuse wasn't the abuse itself, but the response from the church, ie. the cover-ups and internal investigations.
    How ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I did. Did you. A little google will settle things really fast.
    This is a list of all the assault rapes/attempts from 1.1.2011 to november 2011. Enoug to prove your ststement wrong.

    As for religious affiliation, as I have already said, there is no statistics collected on that.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    This is a list of all the assault rapes/attempts from 1.1.2011 to november 2011. Enoug to prove your ststement wrong.

    As for religious affiliation, as I have already said, there is no statistics collected on that.
    Disagree with the head of Oslo's police if you think my numbers are off.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...g-scandal.html

    And now the Scandal pulls in Afro-Carribeans.

    It's because the girls are white, it's like that Chanel Four documentary that odious Black "journalist" did "White Girls are Easy".

    Sure - the ones particularly looking for a black man might be.
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    I wonder if this article refers to these Oslo "statistics" (difficult to tell of course if no link is provided for the statistics...)
    Norway: Gil Ronen distorts Oslo police report by claiming rapists are all muslims

    NB: I acknowledge that I do not know anything about the "Baltic Review" - so it might of course be leftist propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post
    I wonder if this article refers to these Oslo "statistics" (difficult to tell of course if no link is provided for the statistics...)
    Norway: Gil Ronen distorts Oslo police report by claiming rapists are all muslims

    NB: I acknowledge that I do not know anything about the "Baltic Review" - so it might of course be leftist propaganda
    You will find the police saying it themselve on youtube.

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    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post
    Link?
    www.youtube.com

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    Cute ... and kind of predictable.

    So, perhaps the videos that refer to "police statistics" are exactly in line with what is referred to in the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post
    Cute ... and kind of predictable.

    So, perhaps the videos that refer to "police statistics" are exactly in line with what is referred to in the article?
    Ffs you will find it right there, I don't post links anymore. If you simply do a search you will find the official statement by Oslo's police.

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    Sorry - not going through all these videos that pop up from the usual suspects and that refer to the 5 assault rapes done by foreigners in 2010 (which seems to be the only kind of statistic that is out there) to provide you with a leg to stand on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post


    Sorry - not going through all these videos that pop up from the usual suspects and that refer to the 5 assault rapes done by foreigners in 2010 (which seems to be the only kind of statistic that is out there) to provide you with a leg to stand on.
    I have yet to figure out how the copy paste function works, but the first video if you type in 'all rapes oslo' is the one you really don't want

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    The article
    The clip

    Both sources quoting the Police Chief of Oslo. She states that the last 3 years 100% of the assault rapes have been commited by non-western immigrants.

    Looks credible to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post
    Cute ... and predictable
    Shut up and kiss me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Shut up and kiss me
    Hardly - so I see that HoreTore (as well as the article I linked to) are entirely correct with the statement that no religion at all was mentioned - no?
    And that also your statement "A woman is more likely to get raped on the streets of Norway than she is when entering a township in South Africa" is complete hyperbole?

    Sorry - no good night kiss for that, Frag - at least not from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane View Post
    Hardly - so I see that HoreTore (as well as the article I linked to) are entirely correct with the statement that no religion at all was mentioned - no?
    And that also your statement "A woman is more likely to get raped on the streets of Norway than she is when entering a township in South Africa" is complete hyperbole?

    Sorry - no good night kiss for that, Frag - at least not from me
    Of course it's hyperbole what good would it be if it wasn't. It are still solid numbers though

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