The Elephant in the room.

[Vladimir]

I thought I would bump this thread with more stories of wealthy muslim men abusing and exploiting young poor white girls. This example is sadly much bigger than we thought. It's not just confined to a small corner of northern England:

Muslims Traffick White Christian girls in multi-million dollar industry of exploitation

I might have got my races and religions mixed up. If so, please forgive - but I thought the matter of exploitation was more important than giving the muzzers a kicking... eh? What do you mean it wasn't?

Looks like I waited until the appropriate moment to roll my eyes.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

So what's your point?It happens to non-white women?Anyone here not know that?No? OK?Maybe we should talk about all the Muslim mem and women murdering their daughters for participating in Western culture instead.Another case is being tried as we speak.

[Major Robert Dump]

With all due respect, Idaho, we are not giving a free pass to non-muslim criminals of this type.

The free pass, it seems, tends to come from the left in regards to things muslims say and do. Even here in the states, while we openly lambast christians and jehovas and catholics and baptists and scientologists, if you make some comments about muslims oh no you are a racist. All I ask is that everyone plays by the same set of rules and uses the same standards, and if these men chose these girls specifically because they were NOT muslim, then this issue needs to be addressed as it reflects a very real and dangerous line of thinking

[Hax]

Doesn't the fact that you can openly say just about anywhere (which is what happens) that you can't criticise Islam kind of telling of the fact that you can and indeed should criticise Islam?

[Major Robert Dump]

I don't know what you mean by "just about anywhere." It certainly doesn't come from the run-of-the-mill US news agencies or pundits, and just because I can doesn't mean I won't be labeled as a racist prick for doing so. Not mutually exclusive, the two. This goes far deeper than just the topic at hand, in regards to american journalism, who has taken to leaving out the race and ethnicity of crime suspects in news stories where it is completely relevant, in an effort to promote "diversity."

Basically, Hax, I want to see Islam treated in pop culture and news reporting the same way the other religions are, and I want to see muslims suck it up and take it

[Hax]

What do you mean by race and ethnicity?

Also, to what extent is this actually true? I mean, especially with the idea that we have of America is that you can say anything anywhere all the time, so do you have any situations in which it's evident that media outlets avoid mentioning Islam and/or Muslims?

[Major Robert Dump]

What do you mean by race and ethnicity?

Also, to what extent is this actually true? I mean, especially with the idea that we have of America is that you can say anything anywhere all the time, so do you have any situations in which it's evident that media outlets avoid mentioning Islam and/or Muslims?

Alright. Look dude. Once upon a time, when I was in college, a new trend was taking hold in local newspapers and univeristy curriculum that advocated leaving the race of SUSPECTS out of crime stories. This was a touchy feely way of being politically correct. They said the race was not relevant. They backed this up by saying the naked eye can be wrong about race, and that a guy described as hispanic could really be arab.

All of that is garbage. When running a crime story where the susepct is STILL AT LARGE, advertising the color/race of the person is as important as what he was wearing, the color of the car, the time of day etc. The public service is negated by running the story without this info. Who cares if I say "arab" and he turns out to be indian. We are trying to solve a crime. They will stop the brown guy. OR the aian guy. Or the white guy.

This trend has taken hold at the local level. No, it's not 100%, but the fact that some outlets do it is highly disturbing.

How does this relate to muslims? Because stories of honor killings will be reported as a homicide. Thats it, a "domectic dispute." Nevermind the the people involved were muslim, or immigrants, or that is was a religious family dispute. Lets call it a "homicide." Meanwhile, the homicide up the street that didn't involve the cause celebe minority will have a story with all sorts of juicy details that some might call irrelevant, or that some might call as relevant as the family in the honor killing being muslim. Again, not 100% all the time, but the mere fact that certain agencies choose to willingly omit this information is disturbing. Imagine taking the Catholic church out of the serial molestation debacle, and just calling the priests "community leaders."

[Idaho]

With all due respect, Idaho, we are not giving a free pass to non-muslim criminals of this type.

The free pass, it seems, tends to come from the left in regards to things muslims say and do. Even here in the states, while we openly lambast christians and jehovas and catholics and baptists and scientologists, if you make some comments about muslims oh no you are a racist. All I ask is that everyone plays by the same set of rules and uses the same standards, and if these men chose these girls specifically because they were NOT muslim, then this issue needs to be addressed as it reflects a very real and dangerous line of thinking

I don't think muslim criminals get any more of a free ride than christian ones. The point is that many on this board want to make the case that muslim criminal = islam is fundamentally evil; christian criminal = individual bad apple.

The truth is neither of these.

[InsaneApache]

I don't think muslim criminals get any more of a free ride than christian ones.

Unfortunately that's exactly what happened. They did get a free ride because of their ethnicity/culture/religion. It's not acceptable. Is it?

[HoreTore]

Unfortunately that's exactly what happened. They did get a free ride because of their ethnicity/culture/religion. It's not acceptable. Is it?

....says a couple of random commentators. The facts, however, state that they were caught, tried and convicted, with additional penalty.

But, because the commentators speaks to IA's existing prejudices, he easily disregards the facts in this case.

[InsaneApache]

....says a couple of random commentators. The facts, however, state that they were caught, tried and convicted, with additional penalty.

But, because the commentators speaks to IA's existing prejudices, he easily disregards the facts in this case.

Hmmmm...I'd say it's more people who think like you that are prejudiced.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

....says a couple of random commentators. The facts, however, state that they were caught, tried and convicted, with additional penalty.

But, because the commentators speaks to IA's existing prejudices, he easily disregards the facts in this case.

You mean the local MP and the Muslim activist?

Hardly "random" commentators.

That is not all we are discussing - we are also discussing the fact that these Muslim men picked white​ girls deliberately.

[Fragony]

The point is that many on this board want to make the case that muslim criminal = islam is fundamentally evil; christian criminal = individual bad apple.

Oh. And where might that be

[Visor]

I guess that changes everything! I heard eskimo's build iglo's that's just cold imho

With all due respect, Idaho, we are not giving a free pass to non-muslim criminals of this type.

The free pass, it seems, tends to come from the left in regards to things muslims say and do. Even here in the states, while we openly lambast christians and jehovas and catholics and baptists and scientologists, if you make some comments about muslims oh no you are a racist. All I ask is that everyone plays by the same set of rules and uses the same standards, and if these men chose these girls specifically because they were NOT muslim, then this issue needs to be addressed as it reflects a very real and dangerous line of thinking

Agree completly with this.