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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Reported rapes don't cheat, and yeah all by no-western immigrants but tney probably don't mean the Chinese. Because you call them Chinese
    If you were able to read statistics, you'd notice the assault rapes with norwegian suspects. You would also know that we have substantial amounts of immigrants from eastern europe and christian africa. You'd also know that only about 15% of those coming from areas where islam is dominant view themselves as religious(about the same as the percentage for norwegian "christians").
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    [QUOTE=HoreTore;2053452784]If you were able to read statistics, you'd notice the assault rapes with norwegian suspects. You would also know that we have substantial amounts of immigrants from eastern europe and christian africa. You'd also know that only about 15% of those coming from areas where islam is dominant view themselves as religious(about the same as the percentage for norwegian "christians").[/QUOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post

    Tell your police
    The police, as I have explained earlier, does not make statistics of religious affiliation.
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    Welcome to the Frags and Horetore Show folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    Welcome to the Frags and Horetore Show folks.

    IM please.
    Bah, this derailing is actually on topic.

    Actually, it goes further; the debate could just as easily have been about the OP, as many of the same factors are at work there.
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    Again, a reported rape is not the same thing as a sentenced rape. The number of people who got sentenced is probably so low because it's Norway.

    It is not 'known' by the way they are pretty clear about 'where the subject was identified'

    Ad in all cases it was a non-western immigrant. All.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Again, a reported rape is not the same thing as a sentenced rape. The number of people who got sentenced is probably so low because it's Norway.

    It is not 'known' by the way they are pretty clear about 'where the subject was identified'

    Ad in all cases it was a non-western immigrant. All.
    Yes, all five were immigrants, noone is disbuting that. They did not make the comment about the reported rapes, they did it with the cases where there was a known perpetrator(kjent gjerningsmann). The only way that terminology can be used in cases like these, is when the suspect is sentenced and the case is closed.

    Until then, you have a "suspect". If the suspect is identified in a murder or assault rape case, it goes to trial straight away. Only in smaller crimes, like theft, are known suspects sometimes not charged.

    They did, however, make two statements. One of them was about the known suspects, of which there were five. Then they made a second statement about the reported rapes, and said that in those cases there were several suspects who were "likely norwegian"(ie. the victim says it was a norwegian).

    Don't count on facts getting through the racist blogosphere though, only hyperbole and loes by omission get throug there.

    Also, there may be plenty of other mistranslations in that video. I only glanced at the subs and immediatly found one glaring "mistake".
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    I had a another look at the video you posted earlier, frags. I am not surprised to find a mistranslation there, and I do not believe it to be a mistake either. At 1:05, the subtitle reads:

    "revealing how in the past year, all sexual assault involving rape has been committed by men of non-western background"

    The narrator, however, says this:

    "som viser at alle overfallsvoldtekter med kjent gjerningsmann i fjor ble begått av menn med ikke-vestlig bakgrunn."

    Which translates to this:

    "which shows that all assault rapes with a known suspect last year was committed by men of non-western background."

    How is a suspect known? In cases like assault rapes, only when they have been sentenced in court. So, she's talking about those 5 people I talked about earlier.They were all of non-western background; the two minors, the two psychiatric patients and that fifth guy.

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